Calculating Volume of Overlapping Regions using Integration

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The discussion focuses on calculating the volume of overlapping regions defined by the curves y = -x + 3 and y = x^2 - 3x, specifically when revolved around the x-axis and y-axis. Participants emphasize the importance of determining the limits of overlap to accurately compute the volume, as the initial problem statement was unclear and resulted in an area rather than a volume. It is suggested to treat overlapping and non-overlapping regions separately, leading to multiple integrals for precise calculations. A method involving the disc method for x > 0 is recommended, simplifying the process by subtracting the overlapping areas counted twice. The overall consensus is that careful integration and separation of regions are crucial for finding the correct volume.
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Homework Statement


THe region bounded by y = -x + 3 and y = x^2 - 3x
the region revolve about a, x-axis, and b, y=axis

Homework Equations


V = π∫r^2 dx

The Attempt at a Solution


I have no clue to solve it since the volume overlap. I try to ignore the overlapped region but didn't get the right answer.
 
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Your problem statement as worded will not result in a volume, but an area.

Have you left something out, like the region is to be rotated about a certain axis?

In any event, you must determine the limits where the overlap takes place, in order to calculate the proper area.
 
SteamKing said:
Your problem statement as worded will not result in a volume, but an area.

Have you left something out, like the region is to be rotated about a certain axis?

In any event, you must determine the limits where the overlap takes place, in order to calculate the proper area.

oh yes...I actually left something out...the region revolve about a, x-axis, and b, y=axis..
 
Treat the overlapping and non-overlapping regions separately.
 
what do you do with the overlapping region?
 
daivinhtran said:
what do you do with the overlapping region?
The following is a graph by WolframAlpha which may help for the rotation about the x axis.

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It's a graph of 4 curves:

y = -x + 3

y = -(-x + 3)

y = x^2 - 3x

y = -(x^2 - 3x)
 

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SammyS said:
The following is a graph by WolframAlpha which may help for the rotation about the x axis.

attachment.php?attachmentid=55357&stc=1&d=1359950154.gif


It's a graph of 4 curves:

y = -x + 3

y = -(-x + 3)

y = x^2 - 3x

y = -(x^2 - 3x)

I did try this way...I find the region at the interval [-1, 0] by take the integrate of pi ∫(-x+3)^2 - (x^2 - 3x)^2 dx...
Then, pi x ∫ (-x+3)^2 - (-x^2 + 3x)^2 dx for interval [0,1]
Then, pi x ∫ (3x-x^2)^2 for the interval [1,3]
and take the sum of all...and get 56pi/3

but the answer is not that
 
daivinhtran said:
...

Then, pi x ∫ (-x+3)^2 - (-x^2 + 3x)^2 dx for interval [0,1]
...

This one is incorrect.

Added in Edit:

For x > 0, the inner radius is zero. -- This becomes the disc method rather than the washer method for x > 0.
 
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I'll modify my previous suggestion. If you treat overlapping and non-overlapping entirely separately you'll have five separate integrals (2 for overlap, 3 for non).
It's a bit easier to process the whole shape without worrying about the overlap, then subtract the overlap parts on the basis that they have been counted twice. That should reduce it to the three integration steps.
 

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