Calculus - derivatives of xtan(x)

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The discussion revolves around finding the first and second derivatives of the function y = x tan(x). Participants are exploring the differentiation process, particularly focusing on the application of product and chain rules in calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Some participants have successfully computed the first derivative and are now attempting to find the second derivative. There are discussions on the application of the product rule and chain rule, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the next steps. Others are sharing formulas related to derivatives and clarifying the components needed for the second derivative.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively sharing their findings and methods. Some guidance has been provided regarding the differentiation process, particularly in relation to the product rule. However, there is no explicit consensus on the second derivative yet, as participants are still working through the details.

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Participants are operating under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the amount of guidance they can receive. There is also a noted uncertainty regarding the correctness of the first derivative, which may affect subsequent calculations.

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Find the first and second derivative--simplify your answer.

y=x tanx

I solved the first derivative.
y'=(x)(sec^2(x)) +(tanx)(1)
y'=xsec^2(x) +tanx

I don't know about the second derivative though.
 
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jendoley said:
Find the first and second derivative--simplify your answer.

y=x tanx

I solved the first derivative.
y'=(x)(sec^2(x)) +(tanx)(1)
y'=xsec^2(x) +tanx

I don't know about the second derivative though.
Take the derivative of y' to get y''. You will need the product rule and the chain rule.
 


(u v)''=u'' v+2 u' v'+u v''
recall
x''=0
and
tan'(x)=sec(x)^2=1+tan(x)^2
so
tan''(x)=(1+tan(x)^2)'=2 tan(x) tan'(x)
 


That's what I don't get how to do... The second derivative. I'm assuming I have the first derivative done right. I'm lost after that.
 


To find the second derivative take derivative of te derivative.
your function is of the form
y=u v
where u=x and v=tan(x)
y'=u' v+u v'
y''=u'' v+2u' v'+u v''
now we we know u' and v' we need only find u'' and v'' and substitute them in
u=x
u'=1
u''=0
v=tan(x)
v'=1+tan(x)^2=sec(x)^2
v''=2 tan(x) tan'(x)=2 tan(x)+2 tan(x)^3=2 tan(x) sec(x)^2
 

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