Calculus Integration help please -- involves sinh(x), e^x and roots

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The discussion revolves around the integration of a function involving hyperbolic sine, exponential functions, and square roots. The original poster presents an integral that includes sinh(x) and attempts to manipulate it using known identities and properties of hyperbolic functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of hyperbolic identities and transformations to simplify the integrand. There are attempts to rewrite sinh(x) in different forms and relate it to rational functions. Questions arise regarding the manipulation of these identities and the application of integration techniques.

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Several participants have provided hints and guidance on how to express sinh(x) in alternative forms. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of these transformations for the integration process, with no clear consensus yet on a specific method or solution.

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Participants note the importance of correctly formatting LaTeX for clarity in communication. There is also a focus on the assumptions underlying the transformations being discussed, particularly regarding the properties of hyperbolic functions.

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Delta31415 said:
btw how do I get latex to work?
There's a button just below the reply box that says LaTex/BBcode Guides.
Delta31415 said:
Tried using the tables but am lost
Here's a hint
$$\text{sinh}(x)=-\frac{1-e^{2x}}{2e^{x}}$$
 
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NFuller said:
There's a button just below the reply box that says LaTex/BBcode Guides.

Here's a hint
$$\text{sinh}(x)=-\frac{1-e^{2x}}{2e^{x}}$$

so it would similar to a rational function of sine that would have u = tan(x/2)
thanks
 
To make latex work on this forum, enclose the code between $$ delimiters to display it on a line by itself, or between ## delimiters to include it within a line of ordinary text.

If you re-write ##\sinh x## as ##-e^x(1-e^{2x})## you should be able to change the integrand to an expression of the form ##e^{-x}(1-e^{2x})^{k/2}## for some integer ##k##.
 
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NFuller said:
There's a button just below the reply box that says LaTex/BBcode Guides.

Here's a hint
$$\text{sinh}(x)=-\frac{1-e^{2x}}{2e^{x}}$$

btw how did you get to $$\text{sinh}(x)=-\frac{1-e^{2x}}{2e^{x}}$$ from $$\text{sinh}(x)=-\frac{e^{x}-e^{-x}}{2}$$
 
Delta31415 said:
btw how did you get to $$\text{sinh}(x)=-\frac{1-e^{2x}}{2e^{x}}$$ from $$\text{sinh}(x)=-\frac{e^{x}-e^{-x}}{2}$$
$$\text{sinh}(x)=\frac{e^{x}-e^{-x}}{2}=\frac{e^{x}}{e^{x}}\frac{e^{x}-e^{-x}}{2}=\frac{e^{2x}-1}{2e^{x}}=-\frac{1-e^{2x}}{2e^{x}}$$
 
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NFuller said:
$$\text{sinh}(x)=\frac{e^{x}-e^{-x}}{2}=\frac{e^{x}}{e^{x}}\frac{e^{x}-e^{-x}}{2}=\frac{e^{2x}-1}{2e^{x}}=-\frac{1-e^{2x}}{2e^{x}}$$
Thanks
 

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