Calculus & Physics: What Force Particle Carries Action?

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The discussion centers around Zeno's paradox, specifically the scenario of an arrow approaching a target, illustrating the concept of limits in calculus. Participants explore how the arrow never quite reaches the target due to the infinite series of positions it must cross, challenging the assumption that infinite series cannot converge to a finite result. The conversation also touches on the role of photons as force carriers in atomic interactions, emphasizing the repulsion between atoms during the arrow's approach. Additionally, a related paradox involving Achilles and a turtle is mentioned, further highlighting the complexities of infinite sequences. Ultimately, the discussion reveals that the perceived paradoxes can be resolved through a better understanding of calculus and convergence.
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Ok. A guy fires an arrow at this other guy, who runs away. Now the arrow keeps getting closer and closer, but it never quite impales the second guy because the distance between him and the arrow is able to get infinitely smaller before it happens. :cry: What is happening here? The book I got it from says Calculus solved this problem. I don't know why. Anyway.

What force particle carries the action if the arrow meets the guy?

Does any theory besides string have a smallest distance?

Heh.. eh...

-Spencer :rolleyes:

You Mods might want to move this I think. Sorry for that.
 
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is this some colorful explanation of a limit...? for example a basic one limit of (1/2)^n as n goes to infinity? am i missing something...?
 
As the arrow approaches the target, the atoms of the arrow try to "mingle" with the atoms of the target. They have a higher kinetic energy, so they succeed in doing so.
They repel the atoms of target, make space for themselves and this force of repulsion acts through the electric field. So, the force carrier is photon.
 
One of Zeno's paradoxes. It has nothing to do with "force particles". It shows that the the arrow must cross an infinite number of "positions" to go any where, but the tacit assumption that that cannot be done in a finite time is incorrect.
 
Zeno's paradaox:Paradox is only there if we believe that all infinite series can't be finite.But that is false.So ultimately there is no paradox.
 
Ok, I bet you to prove this. I fire you an arrow and you begin to run. If you win, I will pay you 1000 $.
 
You're on!

Awesome explanation for the photon.

For Zeno's paradox: thanks.
 
poolwin2001 said:
Zeno's paradaox:Paradox is only there if we believe that all infinite series can't be finite.

You probably mean "can't add up to some finite number" (i.e. converge) (?)

I got this written in the introduction to the chapter on sequences of my real analysis textbook. I believe it is how Zeno actually formulated his paradox! Thought I'd share it.

"Achille is initially 100 m apart from a turtle that he is pursuing. He runs 10 times faster then the turtle. When Achille will be at the point where the turtle was initially, it will be 10 m apart from Achille. Then it will be 1 m, 10 cm, 1 cm, ... apart. He will never catch up with it." :smile:

Here's another paradox that is fun: Let S be the serie defined by

S=1+2+4+8+16+...

Then

S=1+2(1+2+4+8+16+...)=1+2S \Leftrightarrow S=-1

So this sum of positive numbers is negative.
 
quasar987 -- Just goes to show that you can do most anything with a divergent series.

Regards,
Reilly Atkinson
 
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