Can 2 light sources of different wavelenghts interfere one in another?

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The discussion revolves around the interference of light from two sources of different wavelengths in the context of a double-slit experiment. Participants explore the implications of using bichromatic light, the nature of interference patterns, and the conditions required for observable effects.

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Main Points Raised

  • John questions the visibility of interference patterns when using two different wavelengths (λ1 and λ2) and whether only one wavelength can be observed at certain points on the screen.
  • Some participants suggest that the electric and magnetic fields of the two wavelengths can add vectorially, but maintaining phase coherence is crucial for detection.
  • There is a discussion about the possibility of creating light with a different wavelength through non-linear optical processes, such as frequency doubling.
  • Noel raises questions about the classification of the experiment as a double-slit experiment versus two independent light sources, seeking clarification on the differences.
  • Another participant notes that using two widely spaced spectral lines can lead to overlapping interference patterns that may blur visibility.
  • Some participants assert that a stationary spatial interference pattern requires coherent sources, regardless of whether they originate from a single source or are generated independently.
  • There is a suggestion that stationary patterns might be observable if one frequency is a rational multiple of the other, though this would require precise conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of the experiment and the conditions necessary for interference. There is no consensus on whether the setup constitutes a traditional double-slit experiment or a different configuration. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of using bichromatic light and the nature of the interference patterns produced.

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Participants highlight the importance of coherence in producing observable interference patterns and discuss the limitations of using different wavelengths in terms of visibility and pattern clarity.

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I'm asking because I was solving a double slit experiment problem in which the light was bichromatic (composed by 2 different colors, λ1 and λ2). What would we seen at the screen? Are there places where only one wavelength is observed? Can the 2 wavelenghts interfere to create a third wavelength?

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John
 
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Yes, the electric and magnetic fields just add up vectorially. The main practical problem in the detection is probably to maintain phase coherence between the two fields.
The creation of light with a different wavelength is possible at high field intensities ins so-called non-linear optical processes.
E.g. the light of green laser diodes is often generated by frequency doubling of light in the near IR.
 
jaumzaum said:
... I was solving a double slit experiment problem ...

Why is this a double-slit experiment (why would it be different to two light sources shining on a screen)?

Regards,

Noel.
 
Lino said:
Why is this a double-slit experiment (why would it be different to two light sources shining on a screen)?

The slit, if narrow enough, simplifies the problem by making it so that there is only one straight-line path between the source of the light and the screen. That allows you to treat each slit as a point source of light.
 
Lino said:
Why is this a double-slit experiment (why would it be different to two light sources shining on a screen)?

Regards,

Noel.

If you shine light with two widely spaced spectral lines through the two slits then you will get two interference patterns, superimposed. They will tend to blur each other and mutually spoil visibility.

Similarly, of you use broad spectrum light (white light, say) only the first dark stripe will be detectable but the pattern soon degenerates into blurry coloured fringes. But this, again, is just the superposition of a continuum of individual interference fringes of different wavelengths.

A spatial interference pattern is only possible in a linear system when you can ensure that the signals received from two or more points in space have a constant phase relationship between them - so that you consistently get additive and subtractive interference over the whole cycle of the signal and in specific places. This only happens for signals of the same frequency - by definition.
 
Thanks Nugatory and Sophiecentaur. I understand the concepts / basics of the double-slit experiment, and why the configuration helps, but is this really a double-slit experiment (which I associate with the quantum wave / particle nature of light) or an experiment with two tightly confirned light paths / sources?

(I'm not questioning the experiment, just the reference to the double-slit experiment.)Regards,Noel.
 
Lino said:
Thanks Nugatory and Sophiecentaur. I understand the concepts / basics of the double-slit experiment, and why the configuration helps, but is this really a double-slit experiment (which I associate with the quantum wave / particle nature of light) or an experiment with two tightly confirned light paths / sources?

You're right, this is AN experiment that uses two slits, as opposed to THE double-slit experiment of QM. But they're connected by history: Setting up two slits is the traditional way of demonstrating interference phenomena in general, so was the starting point for considering quantum mechanical interference phenomena when people first started investigating them.
 
Ah! Now I understand. Much appreciated Nugstory.

Regards,

Noel.
 
If you want to predict what will happen with light then you only need to do the calculations for what would happen, classically, with radio waves. Adding the quantum factor is just standing up in a hammock afaics. Get the wave approach sorted out first and then, perhaps talk photons.
The wave approach says that two sources ('slits') will not produce a stationary spatial interference pattern unless they are coherent. This is the case, whether or not the two signals are a result of splitting one signal or they are generated independently. It would be a brave little Scientist who could predict a different result on quantum grounds.
 
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Understood. Thanks Sophiecentaur.

Regards,

Noel.
 
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DrDu has the main point. To produce observable/detectable interference sources must be COHERENT. The slits provide 2 coherent sources even from an incoherent single source.
Slits are not needed if lasers are used because lasers produce coherent radiation
Interference always occurs between waves of the same sort.
Interference is a property of waves, not slits
 
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I think you can also get stationary patterns if one frequency is a rational multiple of the other frequency. It will require fast photography and well controlled light sources to see, but it should be possible.
 

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