Can a 2 KW Motor Efficiently Power a 50 KW Generator?

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of using a 2 kW motor to power a 50 kW generator, exploring the economic implications of electricity costs and potential profits. Participants examine the theoretical and practical aspects of this setup, including power ratings and mechanical considerations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using a 2 kW motor to spin a 50 kW generator, suggesting potential profits based on electricity costs and output.
  • Another participant asserts that a 2 kW motor drawing 50 kW would burn up, indicating a fundamental issue with the proposed setup.
  • A third participant questions the practicality of the idea, noting that it implies generating more power than consumed, which is generally considered impossible.
  • The original poster argues that a 50 kW generator can be easily spun by hand and suggests that using a gearbox to adjust the motor's RPM could prevent the motor from burning up.
  • A later reply emphasizes the need to understand how electrical motors are rated and the relationship between input current and output power.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the feasibility of the proposed motor-generator setup, with significant disagreement on the underlying principles of power generation and motor operation.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the relationship between motor power ratings and generator output, as well as the implications of using gearboxes in this context. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on electrical motor specifications and operational limits.

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hello to everyone, first of all I apologies for my bad english

the idea is - i will use 2 KW motor to spin a 50 KW alternator or generator.
the cost to buy electricity is 17 p/kWh and to sell it to the grid is 5.1 p/kWh
so my motor will use 48 kW in 24h with a cost of 8.16 pounds in 24 hours of electricity and the generator will produce 1200 kW in 24 hours, maybe less around 1000 kW which means 50 pounds a day. so the profit will be around 40 pounds a day
what do you say about that?
will it work?
 
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Nope. a 2kW rated motor drawing 50kW will burn up.
 
An exercise for thought: Why is so much effort put into mining fossil fuels and etc. when power plants could just do what you are describing? The answer of course is because what you are describing is impossible. You would be getting more power out than put in.
 
Averagesupernova said:
. You would be getting more power out than put in.
ant that is the idea to get out much more power than put in. I have seen 50 kW generator being very easy to spin by hand. and if the generator is producing the maximum power at 750 rpm, a 2 kw motor with 2800 rpm and a gear box to increase the power and to reduce the rpm to 750 will it still burn up?
 
cbratus said:
ant that is the idea to get out much more power than put in. I have seen 50 kW generator being very easy to spin by hand. and if the generator is producing the maximum power at 750 rpm, a 2 kw motor with 2800 rpm and a gear box to increase the power and to reduce the rpm to 750 will it still burn up?

You need to spend some time reading about how electrical motors are rated for power output and what the relationship between current in and power out for an electric motor is.

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