Can a steel ball ( marble ) hover ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of a steel ball (marble) hovering using magnetic forces, particularly in relation to concepts from Newton's law of universal gravitation and magnetism. Participants explore theoretical and practical implications of magnetic levitation, including the conditions required for such an effect.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Louis-Philippe proposes the idea of using a magnet's force to counteract the weight of a steel marble to achieve hovering.
  • One participant mentions the Meissner effect, where a strong magnet can hover over a superconductor, suggesting a related concept.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of levitating a normal magnet and suggests that mechanical stabilization is necessary for such levitation.
  • It is noted that to levitate a steel ball, either a diamagnetic material in a strong magnetic field or a superconductor is required.
  • A suggestion is made to consider attaching the steel ball to another object for potential levitation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of hovering a steel ball with magnets, with some suggesting it is not easily achievable while others provide alternative methods or conditions that might allow for levitation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the specific magnetic properties of steel and the conditions necessary for levitation, as well as the limitations of using conventional magnets versus superconductors.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to high school students exploring concepts of magnetism and gravity, as well as those curious about practical applications of magnetic levitation.

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Hi, my name's Louis-Philippe and I'm a high school student FOND of physics. Unfortunately, I'm not yet a physicist and I can't ( yeah, I tried ) understand half of what's written on wikipedia about it.
I'm also kind of an artist and our art teacher gave us carte blanche, so I decided to represent the complexity of atoms throughout a very simple model : a hovering steel ball.
We've recently seen Newton's law of universal gravitation at school and I wondered if some equivalent could be right with magnetism...in simple words, could a magnet's force on the steel marble be the perfect opposite of the weight of the object, so that in the end the whole thing would hover!

Please let me know if it's possible, if yes, then why ( try to be simple, but not too much, I'm no dumb ).
 
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Thus meaning it couldn't be done easily?
 
Of course you can levitate a normal magnet if you stabilize it mechanically. But to do what you are talking about I don't think is possible. I don't feel like looking up the magnetic properties of steel, but you either need a diamagnetic material in an extremely strong magnetic field or you need to be levitating a superconductor.

Maybe you could try to levitate your steel ball attached to something else, not sure.
 

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