Class Project: Marble Ball Launcher [Help]

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The discussion revolves around a physics project focused on building a marble ball launcher that utilizes an electric circuit to propel a marble in both linear and circular motion. Participants explore various methods and mechanisms to achieve consistent propulsion and control over the marble's trajectory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a motor-driven system to propel the marble but expresses uncertainty about the application.
  • Another participant proposes the idea of a pinball plunger as a potential solution, although they admit to being unclear about the mechanics of circular motion and acceleration.
  • A request for complete project requirements is made, indicating confusion about the project's specifics.
  • One participant describes a potential design where a motor compresses a spring to launch the marble around a circular track, followed by a drop due to gravity.
  • Another participant draws a comparison to a thrown baseball, suggesting a combination of linear motion and spin.
  • A linear motor-operated trebuchet is proposed as a possible solution for the launching mechanism.
  • One participant highlights the importance of understanding the marble's motion, questioning whether it will roll on a surface or be launched through the air, and discusses the implications of different spinning methods.
  • A detailed suggestion is made to use a fan system within a confined tube to maintain pressure behind the marble, along with recommendations for a rubberized surface and guide rails to ensure straight motion.
  • Another alternative is presented, involving a vacuum cleaner to either blow or suck the marble through a tube, with considerations for preventing the marble from escaping.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various ideas and suggestions, but there is no consensus on a single approach or solution. Multiple competing views and methods remain under discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not provided complete project requirements, and there are uncertainties regarding the mechanics of circular motion and the specific conditions of the marble's launch and trajectory.

ValerieL
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What I'm here to find out:
I am in the early stages of a physics project to build a electric circuit or use an electrical source to power the force that will carry a marble throughout the mechanical portion of the project, going through linear acceleration and circular motion. I'm not sure what to use to propel the marble, so that it would go in a straight direction and then rotate in a circular motion on its own without me having to manually push it.

Essentially, the electrical portions should horizontally launches a glass marble so that it starts moving and based on that force, be able to go through circular motion and linear acceleration. I have tried using fan power, but it has to be held closely to the marble and does not consistently roll in a straight direction.

A motor-driven system would probably be the best approach, but I am not sure how to apply. I am hoping that others have done similar things before so they can guide me.

Does anyone have ideas on how I can apply physics to this project and control how the ball goes into circular motion and acceleration after being pushed by the electric circuit?
 
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ValerieL said:
Does anyone have ideas on how I can apply physics to this project and control how the ball goes into circular motion and acceleration after being pushed by the electric circuit?
I'm not really clear on the circular motion and acceleration... but could something like a pinball plunger work?
 
ValerieL said:
able to go through circular motion and linear acceleration.
ValerieL said:
circular motion and acceleration
I too am confused. Can you post the actual and complete project requirements?
 
Will this meet the criteria?
Motor compresses a spring which is released to shoot the ball around a circular track (three rails).
At the end of the track the ball falls to the floor, accelerated, by gravity, in a vertical direction.
 
ValerieL said:
circular motion and linear acceleration
Similar to a thrown baseball, linear (between pitcher and catcher) but with a certain amount of spin (circular motion)?
 
Would a linear motor operated trebuchet accomplish what you want?
 
If I am reading this right, you are after a means to fire a marble in a straight, horizontal motion, whilst it is also made to spin?

The solution to this is quite dependent on several thing which we don't know;

Is the marble rolling on a surface or launched in air?
What angle is the axis of rotation relative to the direction of launch? Is the marble spinning like a bullet, which may be accomplishable using rifling, or is it rolling forwards, rolling backwards, spinning like a top?

The closest thing I can read into your experiment, based on the phrase "does not consistently roll in a direction" is that you are trying to roll a marble along a surface.

Your best option for this is probably to use a fan system, but to do so within a confined tube to maintain the pressure behind the marble. To lessen the risk of the marble skidding instead of rolling, use a rubberised surface to roll along - skidding would be the force of the push overcoming that of friction.

A rubberised surface (perhaps electrical tape) with a guide rail either side of the marble to maintain a straight line, all housed under a half-tube (EG guttering) with the "blow" nozzle of a vacuum cleaner to push it along would probably work.

Alternatively, put a downpipe connector and an end piece on the guttering, and suck the marble towards that end using the vacuum cleaner, if you don't have a "blow" function on the cleaner. Put a mesh over the downpipe connector (which will be pointing up, remember) as added insurance to not lose your marble. This won't allow the marble to exit the "launcher" without some clever adjustments, though.
 

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