Can communication between two distant points be instantaneous?

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The discussion centers on the concept of instantaneous communication using a hypothetical rod connecting two distant points. The analogy suggests that tapping the rod would transmit a Morse code message instantaneously. However, participants point out that any signal would actually travel at the speed of sound in the rod's material, not instantaneously. The conversation highlights the fundamental limitation that no material can transmit information faster than the speed of light. Ultimately, the proposed scenario fails due to the physics of wave propagation in solid materials.
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I'm working on an illustrative analogy for instantaneous communication by entangled particles.

I am planning to write something along these lines, but I want to see if anyone can tell me if I'm missing something here:

"Imagine a rod that is connected in a frictionless and weightless environment between two distant points. The rod is solid, with a material that is so dense that it will not compress.

An operator (sender) at one end taps a morse-code message to a receiver at the other end. The rod moves easily with each tap, and thus, the message is communicated instantaneously between the sender and receiver - because the rod connects the two locations..."

Is there some reason this would not work?
 
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BrianS said:
The rod is solid, with a material that is so dense that it will not compress.

Sorry, there's no such thing. :H
 
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jtbell said:
Sorry, there's no such thing. :H
So that is the problem with this example - there will be a compression wave that moves at no faster than C?
 
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Bingo! :biggrin:
 
Awesome, thanks for the quick help. That saved me some grief :rolleyes:
 
I might be wrong but i believe the wave would only move at about the speed of sound in the material of the rod.
 
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BrianS said:
So that is the problem with this example - there will be a compression wave that moves at no faster than C?
CWatters said:
I might be wrong but i believe the wave would only move at about the speed of sound in the material of the rod.

yup exactly .. the speed of sound relative to the density of the rod's composition
 
BrianS said:
Is there some reason this would not work?
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