Can Cosmological Constant contract (negative)?

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The discussion revolves around the cosmological constant, particularly its relationship with quantum contributions and whether it can exhibit negative values or contract. Participants explore the implications of the cosmological constant problem within the frameworks of general relativity (GR) and quantum field theory (QFT), questioning the apparent discrepancy between measured values and theoretical predictions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether the cosmological constant can contract or take on a negative value to counteract the large quantum contributions estimated at 120 orders of magnitude.
  • Others argue that the cosmological constant problem is primarily a QFT issue, as the vacuum energy calculated in QFT is significantly larger than the measured cosmological constant from GR.
  • A participant references Weinberg's review, highlighting the ongoing enigmatic nature of the cosmological constant problem in contemporary physics.
  • There is a discussion about the Anthropic argument, with some participants expressing confusion over why it does not account for the large quantum contributions when asserting the smallness of the cosmological constant in our universe.
  • One participant emphasizes that the discrepancy between the large quantum vacuum energy and the small measured cosmological constant suggests a deeper misunderstanding that may be resolved by a future theory of quantum gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the cosmological constant problem, particularly regarding the relationship between GR and QFT. There is no consensus on how to reconcile the large quantum contributions with the small measured value of the cosmological constant.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of current theories in explaining the discrepancy between the large vacuum energy predicted by quantum theory and the small cosmological constant observed in cosmological measurements.

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Hello...

Can the cosmological constant become so rigid as to resist the 120 magnitude quantum contribution? Where is the mathematical terms for it in GR EFEs? is the effect like contraction instead of expansion? Because the 120 magnitude quantum contribution should immediately warp spacetime after Big Bang.. but it is somehow cancelled.. maybe the cosmological constant can contract or negative value equal to 120 magnitude too?
 
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Hi cube137,

As I understand it the problem of 120 oom is not within GR to explain but it is a problem in QFT.
QFT vacuum energy is much higher than the measured cosmological one.
 
Yes, and it's really the most enigmatic problem of contemporary physics. The isssue is still more or less in the same status as is written in Weinberg's famous review on it:

The cosmological constant problem. Steven Weinberg. Rev. Mod. Phys. 61, 1 – Published 1 January 1989.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/RevModPhys.61.1
http://www.itp.kit.edu/~schreck/general_relativity_seminar/The_cosmological_constant_problem.pdf
 
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vanhees71 said:
Yes, and it's really the most enigmatic problem of contemporary physics. The isssue is still more or less in the same status as is written in Weinberg's famous review on it:

The cosmological constant problem. Steven Weinberg. Rev. Mod. Phys. 61, 1 – Published 1 January 1989.
http://dx.doi.org/10.1103/RevModPhys.61.1
http://www.itp.kit.edu/~schreck/general_relativity_seminar/The_cosmological_constant_problem.pdf

I read them.. but something I still can't understand. In the Anthropic argument.. how come they just stated the cosmological constant is small in our universe.. why didn't they consider the 120 magnitude quantum contributions.. what is the exactly formula of the cosmological constant.. where is the variable that is negative or the one where you plug the negative 120 magnitude (to the quantum contributions) and still making the cosmological constant small?
 
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You are misunderstanding.

We go out and measure the cosmological constant by looking at the redshift of supernovae and applying the equations of general relativity. The result is that the cosmological constant is very, very small.

Then we go and look at quantum theory and calculate the energy of the vacuum, which we think ought to be the same as the cosmological constant. The answer is very, very big - 120 orders of magnitude bigger than the GR-based measurements.

There is no way to make the large value into the small one. These two results just contradict each other. There is something we don't understand going on here. Hopefully quantum gravity will explain it all - but we don't have that theory yet.
 
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Ibix said:
You are misunderstanding.

We go out and measure the cosmological constant by looking at the redshift of supernovae and applying the equations of general relativity. The result is that the cosmological constant is very, very small.

Then we go and look at quantum theory and calculate the energy of the vacuum, which we think ought to be the same as the cosmological constant. The answer is very, very big - 120 orders of magnitude bigger than the GR-based measurements.

There is no way to make the large value into the small one. These two results just contradict each other. There is something we don't understand going on here. Hopefully quantum gravity will explain it all - but we don't have that theory yet.

But that's the point. In the Anthropic multiverse arguments.. there are billions of universes with different values of the constants.. we just happened to be in a universe with small constant.. but still it doesn't take into account the 120 magnitude quantum contributions.. so what is the point of the Anthropic argument.. it is supposed to solve what happened to the 120 magnitude quantum contributions and why is the cosmological constant small in spite of it.
 

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