Can Linear and Angular Momentum Be Combined in Mechanics?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between linear and angular momentum in mechanics, particularly in the context of a point mass moving in the x-y plane. Participants explore the implications of constant velocity on both types of momentum and the conservation of angular momentum.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a point mass moving with constant velocity has constant linear momentum but questions the behavior of angular momentum as the mass moves towards infinity.
  • Another participant challenges the assertion that angular momentum tends to zero, prompting a discussion about the relationship between angular velocity and the mass's trajectory.
  • A participant clarifies their earlier statement about angular momentum, indicating that as the mass moves further away, the angle decreases, but the position vector's modulus increases, suggesting that angular momentum remains constant.
  • There is a proposition that all linear motion not directed radially has an associated angular momentum about the origin.
  • One participant asserts that linear and angular momentum cannot be combined due to their differing units, implying that a simple sum lacks meaning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of angular momentum as the mass moves further along the x-axis, with some suggesting it remains constant while others question the implications of its definition. There is no consensus on whether linear and angular momentum can be combined.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the definitions and implications of angular momentum in relation to linear motion, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which these concepts apply.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and practitioners of mechanics, particularly those exploring the concepts of momentum in two-dimensional motion.

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Hi,

I,ve been looking through some notes on Lagrangian mechanics but they have got me confused so i'll start from the beginning.
If a point mass is moving in the x-y plane with constant velocity v at a y-coordinate r then it has linear momentum mv which is a constant but it has an angular momentum about the origin of mrv at x=0 ? If the point mass continues in the positive x direction towards ∞ then it its angular momentum must tend to zero ? What happens to conservation of angular momentum ?
 
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Are your sure that the angular momentum would tend toward zero? What happens to the angular velocity as the mass continues moving in the positive direction?
 
I was using angular momentum=mrvsinθ and as x→0 then sinθ→0
 
I meant as x→∞ then θ→0 and sinθ→0
 
I've figured that now. The angle gets smaller but the modulus of the position vector gets bigger so the angular momentum stays the same.
So all linear motion that is not radial has an angular momentum about the origin ?
For a point mass is there such a thing as total momentum combining linear momentum and angular momentum ?
 
Linear and angular momentum can't be summed up together as they have different units, so their mere sum won't make sense
 
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