Can mixing Vitamin C and alcohol have negative effects?

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The discussion revolves around the potential effects of mixing vitamin C and alcohol, specifically addressing concerns about safety, interactions, and metabolic processes. Participants explore the implications of consuming vitamin C supplements in conjunction with alcoholic beverages, touching on both theoretical and practical aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about the safety of consuming vitamin C and alcohol together, questioning if there are negative effects.
  • Others argue that alcohol depletes vitamin C but suggest that moderate consumption (e.g., one beer) is unlikely to necessitate supplementation.
  • One participant mentions that vitamin C is water-soluble, implying that overdose from normal doses is unlikely.
  • Another participant discusses the solubility of ascorbic acid in different solvents, suggesting that it does not pose a danger when mixed with a low-alcohol beverage.
  • A participant provides a detailed explanation of alcohol metabolism, emphasizing the enzymatic processes involved and the role of acetaldehyde as a toxic byproduct.
  • Some participants humorously reference common drinks that combine vitamin C and alcohol, such as a Screwdriver, while others highlight the prevalence of vitamin C in various alcoholic beverages.
  • One participant warns against mixing alcohol with CNS depressants, indicating a concern for safety in broader contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the potential negative effects of mixing vitamin C and alcohol. While some argue that moderate consumption is safe, others express concerns about the implications of acetaldehyde and the interaction of alcohol with other substances in the body.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various biochemical processes and solubility characteristics, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the interactions and effects of vitamin C and alcohol in different contexts. The discussion includes both anecdotal experiences and technical explanations, which may not fully account for individual variability in reactions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals considering the health implications of combining vitamin C supplements with alcohol, as well as those curious about the biochemical processes involved in alcohol metabolism.

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I had 2 caps of 500mg ascorbic vit C and in just about 10mins or so I took out a bottle of 6% alcoholic beverage from the fridge and almost halfway I realized I might be doin' somethin' wrong?
 
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So?

Alcohol depletes vitamin C, but one beer isn't going to do it so much that you need a supplement. They also don't really interact with each other, so you shouldn't have drug interactions, what exactly is happening that you think there is something wrong?

Vitamin C is also water soluble, so you can't really overdose on it (well, you can, but not from a normal dose.) Vitamin C is commonly taken with alcohol, I can recall many college mornings waking up with a hangover and a gatorade / multivitamin.
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
So?

Alcohol depletes vitamin C, but one beer isn't going to do it so much that you need a supplement. They also don't really interact with each other, so you shouldn't have drug interactions, what exactly is happening that you think there is something wrong?

That's a relief, never did it before so I'm feeling a little paranoid, thanks NJrunner!
 
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I had 2 caps of 500mg ascorbic vit C and in just about 10mins or so I took out a bottle of 6% alcoholic beverage from the fridge and almost halfway I realized I might be doin' somethin' wrong?
Only 6% alcoholic beverage and 1000 mg of vit C won't put you in danger at all.
Based on this reference, you can check how much your acid's solubility is
The solubility in g/mL is 0.33 in water, 0.033 in 95 wt% ethanol, 0.02 in absolute ethanol
Green peas, citric acid, ascorbic acid etc are good candidates for ethanol clearance in our blood stream.
(basic though, e.g R-COOH+HO-C2H5 -> water + ester, which is no longer chemically functioning as a harmful agent present in our body)
 
Pepper Mint said:
Only 6% alcoholic beverage and 1000 mg of vit C won't put you in danger at all.
Based on this reference, you can check how much your acid's solubility is

Green peas, citric acid, ascorbic acid etc are good candidates for ethanol clearance in our blood stream.
(basic though, e.g R-COOH+HO-C2H5 -> water + ester, which is no longer chemically functioning as a harmful agent present in our body)
Pepper Mint said:
Only 6% alcoholic beverage and 1000 mg of vit C won't put you in danger at all.
Based on this reference, you can check how much your acid's solubility is

Green peas, citric acid, ascorbic acid etc are good candidates for ethanol clearance in our blood stream.
(basic though, e.g R-COOH+HO-C2H5 -> water + ester, which is no longer chemically functioning as a harmful agent present in our body)

Hi Pepper Mint! Esterification will not occur in the stomach or intestinal tract. While the pH is acidic enough in the stomach, the temps aren't sufficient to overcome Eactivation. The only way to clear alcohol from the blood stream is through enzymatic oxidation. Ethanol is converted to acetaldehyde via ethanol dehydrogenase, and acetaldehyde is converted to acetic acid via acetaldehyde dehydrogenase. The acetic acid can be eliminated through the urinary tract, or taken up in the acetyl Co A cycle. Ascorbic acid is a good free radical trap for any acetaldehyde free radicals, but that's it. Also bear in mind the reaction kinetics are of second order in reactants. Too much acetaldehyde built up in the system slows down the final oxidation step. This is what produces hangovers.
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
Vitamin C is commonly taken with alcohol, ...

Yeah, it's called a Screw Driver.
 
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jack476 said:
Yes, mixing even moderate amounts of vitamin C and alcohol will give you cancer and AIDS and you will probably die.
Yes cancer is definitely related (acetaldehyde is a toxic carcinogen).
Kevin McHugh said:
Hi Pepper Mint! Esterification will not occur in the stomach or intestinal tract. While the pH is acidic enough in the stomach, the temps aren't sufficient to overcome Eactivation. The only way to clear alcohol from the blood stream is through enzymatic oxidation. Ethanol is converted to acetaldehyde via ethanol dehydrogenase, and acetaldehyde is converted to acetic acid via acetaldehyde dehydrogenase. The acetic acid can be eliminated through the urinary tract, or taken up in the acetyl Co A cycle. Ascorbic acid is a good free radical trap for any acetaldehyde free radicals, but that's it. Also bear in mind the reaction kinetics are of second order in reactants. Too much acetaldehyde built up in the system slows down the final oxidation step. This is what produces hangovers.
Thank you for your correction, you are right about alcohol metabolism. Still I think the alcohol intake as mentioned by OP (a bottle of beverage) can't get neutralized easily and all by HCl present in our stomach, the remaining ethanol molecules will interact with other acidic substances in our body and get eliminated along with other acetaldehyde molecules after being further broken down into acetate then carbon dioxide and water. And to add a little that our hangover after we take some alcoholic beverages is caused by these acetaldehyde free radicals that are trapped with our receptors and inhibitors in our brain circuitry.
 
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SteamKing said:
Yeah, it's called a Screw Driver.
True but I think I may need to include this link, otherwise some readers may get confused. :biggrin:
 
Many Many alcoholic beverages are made with orange juice and orange liquor. Vc and alcohol go together like peas and carrots.
 
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I'm so overwhelmed by all your inputs I can't help but read them over and over... Thanks everyone. I'm learning a lot.
 
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As a cautionary tail: things you do want to avoid are any CNS depressants (prescription medications). These are easily Identified by warning labels on the side of the package or bottle and patient information leaflet.
 

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