Can Physicists Balance Career and Social Life?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the balance between a career in physics and maintaining a social life. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on the challenges and possibilities of managing personal relationships, exercise, and academic responsibilities during undergraduate and graduate studies in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a desire to balance their passion for physics with social activities and personal relationships.
  • One participant suggests that achieving a balance is about setting priorities, noting their own experience of sacrificing social life during college.
  • Another participant argues that while many physicists may not have social lives, it could be attributed more to social ineptitude than time constraints.
  • Some participants share that while it can be challenging to maintain a social life during undergraduate and PhD studies, it is not impossible, with examples of individuals who have successfully managed both.
  • There is a mention that the first year of graduate school can be particularly busy, but maintaining a balanced life is crucial to avoid burnout.
  • One participant humorously suggests that having a girlfriend can be considered a form of exercise.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of pursuing a physics degree if the goal is to become an engineer, suggesting that an engineering degree might be more straightforward.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally acknowledge the difficulty of balancing a career in physics with a social life, but there are multiple competing views on the extent of this challenge and the reasons behind it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieving this balance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate that the ability to balance work and social life may depend on individual efficiency and personal circumstances, suggesting that experiences can vary widely among students and professionals in the field.

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I love Physics and Math and really want to become good a it. I like to make exercise, hang out with friends, have a girlfriend and maybe in the future have a family. I know that you have to put the effort to succeed but i like to know if at least let you time to do the thing i mentioned above.
 
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It's all about priorities, Alex. When I was in college, I didn't have time for a social life...just school, work, exercise. I waited until school was nearly finished before I started socializing much again.

You can have it all, but perhaps you can't have it all at the same time.
 


I've never seen the terms "physicist", "time", and "social life" used in the same sentence before.
 


AlexES16 said:
I love Physics and Math and really want to become good a it. I like to make exercise, hang out with friends, have a girlfriend and maybe in the future have a family. I know that you have to put the effort to succeed but i like to know if at least let you time to do the thing i mentioned above.

Of course physicists can have social lives. In fact, I think grad school is easier than college ever was. Sure, I work about fifty to sixty hours a week. But when I go home I don't have to worry about studying for some standardized test, or doing my research project (since research is my job), or doing forty pages of mechanics homework. In practice many physicists don't have social lives, but I think this is more due to social ineptitude than time constraints.
 


arunma said:
but I think this is more due to social ineptitude than time constraints.

That's a good excuse but it is more likely due to ..

lisab said:
It's all about priorities
 


lisab said:
It's all about priorities, Alex. When I was in college, I didn't have time for a social life...just school, work, exercise. I waited until school was nearly finished before I started socializing much again.

You can have it all, but perhaps you can't have it all at the same time.

At least have a girlfriend and exercise? xD
 


arunma said:
Of course physicists can have social lives. In fact, I think grad school is easier than college ever was. Sure, I work about fifty to sixty hours a week. But when I go home I don't have to worry about studying for some standardized test, or doing my research project (since research is my job), or doing forty pages of mechanics homework. In practice many physicists don't have social lives, but I think this is more due to social ineptitude than time constraints.


It is possible to have a girlfriend and exercise?
 


It depends. I can certainly very difficult while you are a undergrad student, and it doesn't get much easier as a PhD student.
I have friends who managed to raise a family while doing a PhD, they were perhaps not working as many hours as me but they were usually much more efficient than me when they DID work.
That said, I am a pretty good example of someone who did not manage to find the time for a social life while doing a PhD; so it really depends on how you are.


However, physicists are not exactly unique in this respect, everyone -regardless of education and job- have these problems to some extent. But of course it is worse for those of us who goes into a "challenging" career (I suspect it is even worse for say medical doctors)

So the bad news is that you will never have as much time for a social life as you have now, regardless of what you choose.
Welcome to the real world:wink:
 


f95toli said:
It depends. I can certainly very difficult while you are a undergrad student, and it doesn't get much easier as a PhD student.
I have friends who managed to raise a family while doing a PhD, they were perhaps not working as many hours as me but they were usually much more efficient than me when they DID work.
That said, I am a pretty good example of someone who did not manage to find the time for a social life while doing a PhD; so it really depends on how you are.


However, physicists are not exactly unique in this respect, everyone -regardless of education and job- have these problems to some extent. But of course it is worse for those of us who goes into a "challenging" career (I suspect it is even worse for say medical doctors)

So the bad news is that you will never have as much time for a social life as you have now, regardless of what you choose.
Welcome to the real world:wink:

Well. i was thinking, my country is El Salvador, not what we can say a superpower xD. So maybe i get the licentiate in Physics and next i get a engineer degree, good idea?
 
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AlexES16 said:
It is possible to have a girlfriend and exercise?

Sure. I go to the gym three to four times a week in the evening. I'm not really interested in the whole girlfriend thing (and to clarify: no, I'm not interested in the boyfriend thing either :smile:), so can't really give you any first-hand experience there. But I do know people who have girlfriends. I think they exercise too.

Seriously though, I don't think physics grad school is much different than having a job. I know people who work regular jobs who sometimes have to stay in the office after hours and pull all nighters. At least if you go the grad school way you get to put "Dr." in front of your name at the end of the whole thing, which I think is pretty damn cool. Granted, the pay sucks, and the job security is nonexistent, but it's worth it if you like physics.

AlexES16 said:
Well. i was thinking, my country is El Salvador, not what we can say a superpower xD. So maybe i get the licentiate in Physics and next i get a engineer degree, good idea?

Why not just get your college degree in engineering? If you want to be an engineer, it's way easier than getting in with a physics degree.
 
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arunma said:
Sure. I go to the gym three to four times a week in the evening. I'm not really interested in the whole girlfriend thing (and to clarify: no, I'm not interested in the boyfriend thing either :smile:), so can't really give you any first-hand experience there. But I do know people who have girlfriends. I think they exercise too.

Seriously though, I don't think physics grad school is much different than having a job. I know people who work regular jobs who sometimes have to stay in the office after hours and pull all nighters. At least if you go the grad school way you get to put "Dr." in front of your name at the end of the whole thing, which I think is pretty damn cool. Granted, the pay sucks, and the job security is nonexistent, but it's worth it if you like physics.



Why not just get your college degree in engineering? If you want to be an engineer, it's way easier than getting in with a physics degree.

Well ill start a new thread about what engineer to choose.

Thanks men
 
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AlexES16 said:
It is possible to have a girlfriend and exercise?

Having a girlfriend is exercise.
 
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I am a Ph.D student and I have it all. If you don't do socializing/exercising, it is very probable that you will be burnt out in the graduate school. You don't want this because when you are burn out, you can't get things done, you are not efficient at all. So, having a balanced work/social life is key for successfully finishing the graduate school. The first year of grad school can be a bit busy though. But, other than that, you should be able have a balanced work/social life.
 
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Of course physicists have a social life. It consists of:

professors, advisors, academic peers, bureaucracy, and your loyal textbooks (they always got your back).
 

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