Can someone explain elastic band physics

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The discussion revolves around the physics of using elastic bands to create a device that prevents an egg from breaking when dropped from a height. Participants explore theoretical and practical aspects of this application, including modeling the behavior of elastic materials and potential design considerations.

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  • Technical explanation
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using a strength training resistance band as a bungee cord to cushion the egg's fall and seeks formulas related to this application.
  • Another participant suggests approximating the bungee cord's behavior with a differential equation involving mass, damping coefficient, spring constant, and forcing function, indicating that the system should be over-damped.
  • The second participant emphasizes the importance of trial and error experimentation rather than relying solely on calculations for this setup.
  • A different approach is suggested involving a length of string with a short length of elastic to absorb shock when the string becomes taut.

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Participants express various ideas and approaches, with no consensus reached on a single method or solution. The discussion includes multiple competing views on how to effectively design the device.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in the simple model proposed for the elastic behavior, indicating that it may not accurately predict outcomes and that practical experimentation is necessary.

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Students and educators interested in practical applications of physics, particularly in experimental design and the mechanics of elastic materials.

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in my physics class we have to create a device that will make an egg not break after being dropped from a second story window. my idea was to take a strength training resistance band and use it like a bungee jumping cord and have the egg drop to the bottom without breaking.
what are the formulas for this?
can i have the band weighed down so it doesn't spring back up until after i unhook the egg at the bottom?
thanks
 
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Pianodude132 said:
in my physics class we have to create a device that will make an egg not break after being dropped from a second story window. my idea was to take a strength training resistance band and use it like a bungee jumping cord and have the egg drop to the bottom without breaking.
what are the formulas for this?
can i have the band weighed down so it doesn't spring back up until after i unhook the egg at the bottom?
thanks

You can approximate the bungee cord as a spring and somewhat model it's behavior with ##m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2} + \beta \frac{dx}{dt} +kx = f(t)##. Where m is the mass, ##\beta## is the damping coefficient, k is the spring constant, and f(t) would be the forcing function. k is ## \frac {F}{s} = k## which you can determine experimentally. ##\beta## will depend both on the material you use and the damping effect as the system moves through air. x will be the displacement. f(t) will be zero in this case.

So you basically want to create it so that the system is over-damped, and the equilibrium position is somewhere off the ground of the drop sight. I wouldn't try to calculate this, as the simple model above isn't going to be accurate enough, basically you're going to want to do a lot of trial and error experimentation.

Make sure you wear goggles when playing around, don't want to lose an eye!
 
thanks very much!
 
You could also use a length of string with a short length of elastic to absorb the shock when the string becomes tight.
 

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