Can the Volume of Revolution Be Negative?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mathematical problem of calculating the volume of revolution for a specific curve defined by an equation related to the shape of an egg. Participants are exploring the implications of this volume potentially being negative and are seeking clarification on the calculations involved.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation for the curve of an egg and claims that rotating this curve around the x-axis results in a negative volume.
  • Other participants request the original poster to show their work to identify where the error may lie.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster may have incorrectly solved for y and provides an alternative expression for y.
  • A different participant points out a potential typo in the original equation and notes that the integral was not evaluated correctly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the calculations or the nature of the volume. Multiple competing views and suggestions for corrections are presented, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the integration process and the evaluation of the volume, as well as potential dependencies on the definitions used in the equations.

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There is a nice equation made by Nobuo Yamamoto which describes the curve of an egg and it is:

(x^2 + y^2)^2 = ax^3 + (3/10)xy^2, where a is the length of the major axis of the egg.

Solve this equation for y, we get:

y=+/- sqrt((3/20)ax - x^2 + xsqrt((7/10)ax + (9/400)a^2))

When I rotate the function around the x-axis by 2(pi), the result is a negative volume of (-1)((pi)(a^3))/12.

I don't know what I am doing wrong, or how I can fix this problem.

Can someone please help me out on this?
 
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Show your work. How else might we see where you went wrong?
 
phinds said:
Show your work. How else might we see where you went wrong?
Sorry, new to this site.

I am using the positive case of the equation mentioned.
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It looks like you didn't solve for ##y## correctly. I get
$$y = \sqrt{\left(\frac b2\right)x-x^2+x\sqrt{\left(\frac b2\right)^2+(a-b)x}}$$ where ##b=3/10##.

To integrate the term of the form ##x\sqrt{c+dx}##, try using the substitution ##u=c+dx##.
 
OK, so you have a typo in the equation in your first post. Your expression for ##y## is correct, but you didn't evaluate the third integral correctly.
 

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