Can we obtain a permanently polarized ice?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of obtaining a permanently polarized ice by subjecting water to a uniform electrostatic field before rapid cooling. Participants clarify that while water can be polarized in an electric field, the resulting ice does not retain this polarization once the field is removed. The primary reason for this is the diamagnetic nature of water, which prevents the establishment of a permanent polarization in the solid state. The conversation highlights the distinction between electric and magnetic fields in the context of water's behavior under these conditions.

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What is the result of the following experiment?

We put an amount of water in a uniform electrostatic field. We get a polarisation.
Keeping the polarizing field, we cool rapidly the water until it became solid.
We turn off the polarizing field.
Do we obtain a permanently polarized piece of ice? If not, what prevents that from
happening?
 
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I did not realize that you could polarise water given it's diamagnetic nature. I would imagine that the water would set up an orbital magnetic field under the influence of an external magnetic field, I'm not sure that you actually could freeze magnetic force lines into frozen water, but if you could; it would be a diamagnetic orbital field and not a polarised one...I think?
 
He's talking about an electric field, not a magnetic one Velikovsky.
 

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