Proving the Induction Relationship: 1 = 1, 1 - 2^2 = -(1+2), and More!

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The discussion focuses on proving a mathematical induction relationship involving sums of squares and natural numbers. The initial proof attempts to establish the equality for odd and even cases separately, but suggestions are made to streamline the approach by using a single assumption format. A participant highlights the importance of specifying whether the assumption is for odd or even n in the proof. Ultimately, a refined method is discovered that utilizes the summation formula for natural numbers, simplifying the proof process significantly. The conversation emphasizes the value of leveraging known mathematical results for easier problem-solving.
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1 = 1
1 - 2^2 = -(1+2)
1 - 2^2 + 3^2 = (1+2+3)
1^2 - 2^2 + 3^2 - 4^2 = -(1+2+3+4)

and so on.

I have to prove that this relationship is true for all natural numbers. This is what I did:

clearly it is true for 1, 2, 3 and 4.

assume true for n odd:

1^2 - 2^2 + 3^2 - 4^2 ... + n^2 = (1 + 2 + +3 + 4... + n)

tidying things up a bit and inducting (n+1) and (n+2) we can obtain this pattern:

(1^2 - 1) + (3^2 - 3)... + ((n-1)^2 - (n-1)) + ((n+1)^2 - (n+1)) = (2^2 + 2) + (4^2 + 4) +... + (n^2 + n) + ((n+2)^2 + (n+2))

The ((n+1)^2 - (n+1)) from the LHS cancels with the (n^2 + n) on the RHS if you play around with it, therefore the equality holds for every n+2 given any n >= 4. The same argument can be applied to the case in which n is even, QED.
 
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Venomily said:
assume true for n:

1^2 - 2^2 + 3^2 - 4^2 ... + n^2 = (1 + 2 + +3 + 4... + n)

If you're going to assume true for n, then on the very next line you have +n2 as the last term on the LHS and a positive sum on the RHS, then you should specify "assume true for n odd" or something along those lines.

Also, it's unnecessary to take it in two cases, just set up your assumption as,

Assume true for n=k:

1^2 - 2^2 + 3^2 - ... + (-1)^{k-1}k^2=(-1)^{k-1}(1+2+3+...+k)

Now prove it is true for n=k+1.
 
Mentallic said:
If you're going to assume true for n, then on the very next line you have +n2 as the last term on the LHS and a positive sum on the RHS, then you should specify "assume true for n odd" or something along those lines.

Also, it's unnecessary to take it in two cases, just set up your assumption as,

Assume true for n=k:


1^2 - 2^2 + 3^2 - ... + (-1)^{k-1}k^2=(-1)^{k-1}(1+2+3+...+k)

Now prove it is true for n=k+1.

@bold, how would you go about proving it then? rearranging the expression would be tedious with a multiplier (is there a better way?). I thought it would be easier to take the two cases since if you prove one case you imply the other.

EDIT: nvm, I found a more refined way of doing it using the (-1)^k-1, thanks.
 
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If you use the well known summation property 1+2+3+...+n=\frac{n(n+1)}{2} it becomes very easy to solve.
 
Mentallic said:
If you use the well known summation property 1+2+3+...+n=\frac{n(n+1)}{2} it becomes very easy to solve.

thanks, I forgot about using known results :p Yes, it becomes very easy now.
 
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