Can you find a non-recursive formula for y(n) with 4th order coefficients?

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A non-recursive formula for y(n) can be derived from the given recursive relationship, where y(n) is defined for specific initial conditions. The initial values are y(1) = 1, y(2) = 1, y(3) = 0, and y(4) = 0. To find a general solution, the characteristic equation t^4 = 1 + t can be solved, yielding four roots. By applying the initial conditions to the general solution of the form At^n, a non-recursive formula can be established. Further exploration of the first few terms and inductive proof may assist in confirming the derived formula.
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How to get a non-recursive formula for y(n):

y(n)=1 (n=1 or 2)
y(n)=0 (n=3 or 4)
y(n)=(y(n-4) + y(n-3))/2


Any hints apprecaited..
 
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write down the first few terms, guess an answer and prove it inductively, that'd be my guess.

or work backwards from y(n) repeatedly subs'ing in and see what works.
 
I have already wrote down previous 20 items, still can't find the relationship

I have already wrote down previous 20 items, still can't find the relationship


matt grime said:
write down the first few terms, guess an answer and prove it inductively, that'd be my guess.

or work backwards from y(n) repeatedly subs'ing in and see what works.
 
Ok, I suppose a 4th order is going a little too far to ask you to spot it...

however, it is linear and homogeneous, so the general solution is of the form At^n for some constants t and A, t satisfies

t^n = t^{n-4}+t^{n-3}

or

t^4=1+t,

solve that, to get 4 solutions, and then apply the 4 initial conditions.
 
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