Canonical Momenta Action Electromagnetism

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The discussion revolves around the construction of canonical momenta in the context of electromagnetism, specifically using the action derived from a given Lagrangian density. Participants are exploring the variational derivative and its application in classical field theory.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the action and seeks guidance on constructing the canonical momenta without extensive algebra.
  • Another participant suggests splitting index summations to simplify the process of taking derivatives, indicating that this will make the variables clearer.
  • A different participant proposes that a brute force calculation is necessary, referencing the derivative of the field strength tensor.
  • One participant expresses confusion about computing the variational derivative and requests clarification.
  • A later reply reiterates the connection between the variational derivative and the Euler-Lagrange equations, while also emphasizing the need for the original poster to engage with the assignment independently.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the computation of the canonical momenta and the variational derivative. There is no consensus on the best approach, and multiple methods are proposed.

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Some participants highlight the complexity of the variational derivative and the potential need for a detailed calculation, indicating that assumptions about familiarity with the underlying concepts may not hold for all participants.

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Students and practitioners in classical field theory, particularly those interested in electromagnetism and canonical quantization methods.

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Hi everyone,

In one of the assignments in a course on classical field theory I'm given the action
S = \int d^4 x \mathcal{L}

where
\mathcal{L} = -\frac{1}{16\pi} F_{\mu \nu} F^{\mu \nu} - A_{\mu}j^{\mu}.


I'm now supposed to construct the canonical momenta \pi_\mu = \frac{\delta S}{\delta \dot{A}^{\mu}},

but I have no idea how to. Is there any way to do this without loads and loads of algebra?
 
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You mean πk. Canonical quantization is a 3+1 dimensional approach and πk is a 3-d variable. What you need to do is split all the index summations into 0 along with a sum over k. Then you'll see Ak,0 explicitly, making it easy to take the derivative.
 
I don't see other way to do it rather than brute force calculation using:

\frac{\partial\left(\partial_{\mu}A_{\nu}\right)}{ \partial\left(\partial_{0}A_{\sigma}\right)} = \delta_{\mu}^{0} \delta_{\nu}^{\sigma}
 
I guess I don't understand how to compute the variational derivative here, can anyone explain?
 
Yoran91 said:
I guess I don't understand how to compute the variational derivative here, can anyone explain?
The functional derivative or variational derivative is the same thing you do when deriving the Euler-Lagrange equations. See Wikipedia. (I'm limiting my comments because you say this is an assignment. You need to work some of this out for yourself!)
 
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