Capacitance Experiment: Determining Time Constant and V_0 Value

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The discussion revolves around an experiment to determine the capacitance of a capacitor in a circuit involving a resistor and an oscillator. Participants explore the concept of the time constant (t=RC) and the significance of the initial voltage (V_0) across the capacitor during the charging process.

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  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the definition of V_0, suggesting they may have conducted the experiment incorrectly.
  • Another participant clarifies that V_0 is the initial voltage on the capacitor before it is connected to the resistor, typically equal to the voltage of the charging battery.
  • Yet another participant states that V_0 represents the maximum potential difference between the capacitor plates, equating it to the EMF of the battery.
  • Several participants inquire about the specifics of the circuit, including the resistance value and the time taken for the capacitor to charge to 63% of V_0.
  • One participant mentions the need to calculate capacitance to achieve a specific 3dB cutoff frequency at 1 MHz for filtering ARINC 429 data lines.
  • A later reply emphasizes the importance of setting the oscilloscope's time scale to observe the voltage value as the capacitor charges from 0V to V_0.

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There is no consensus on the precise definition of V_0, with multiple interpretations presented by participants. The discussion includes both clarification of terms and technical inquiries, indicating that some aspects remain unresolved.

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Participants have not fully established the relationship between the measured values and the theoretical calculations, leaving some assumptions and dependencies on definitions unaddressed.

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I was doing an experiment to determine the capacitance of a capacitor in a circuit with a particular resistor R. This was also set up to an oscillator and oscillscope.

Now t=RC, where t is the time constant. At a time of t, the value of V across the capacitor is .63(V_0), says my guide. So if I know V_0, I could workout out the time constant t, and hence the capacitance.

But what is V_0? The guide does not state. I am confused, and think I may have done the experiment wrong. I have an averaged value of the max V across the capacitor and the time it took to reachhis value if that's any help...

Is this value of V_0?
 
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V_0 is the initial voltage on the capacitor before it was connected to the resistor.
It usually equals the voltage of the charging battery.
 
v_0 is the maximum value of potential difference which can which can occur between theplates of the capacitor and is equal to the EMF of the battery
 
Please help if you have experienced about capacitance for ARINC 429 signal?
 
Please help if you have experienced about capacitance for ARINC 429 signal? this signal taken time 1us for charge 63%.
 
have u measured the resistance of the resistor used?
 
resistance 5 ohm.
 
then u're good to go, u knew all the things needed, the time, the resistance, what made it difficult to get C?
 
I known to calculated from t=rc, but I want what capacitance to capture 3dB at 1 MHZ.
 
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Thanks,
I have plans to filter the ARINC 429 data lines.
Note: the ARINC 429 lines can have a pulse rise time as short at 1us. This translates to an effective signal on the order of 1MHz. The pi filter 3dB frequency has to be above the ARINC 429 frequency (ARINC 429 have frequency is 1Mhz).
 
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V_0 is the final voltage. You'll need to set the time scale on the oscilloscope so that you can see what the value is.

The capacitor voltage charges from 0V initially to V_0 eventually. The time to go from 0V to 0.63V is the RC time constant.

edit added:
Just saw the date on the original post. Oops!
 

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