Capillary Action: Overcoming Capillary Force with Ions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of capillary action and the potential use of ionized liquids to overcome capillary forces in order to generate movement and work. Participants explore the interplay between capillary forces and electrostatic forces, particularly in the context of free energy generation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that using an ionized liquid could leverage electrostatic forces to enhance capillary action on one end of a tube while counteracting it on the other end, potentially allowing the liquid to exit the tube.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of the proposed mechanism, seeking clarification on how the suggested approach would function.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the type of "free energy" being discussed, specifically relating to the combination of capillary and electrostatic forces to create continuous movement.
  • Participants note that discussions about free energy generation are generally not permitted within the forum, referencing guidelines against pseudoscience and perpetual motion concepts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the validity of the proposed mechanism involving ionized liquids and capillary action, as some participants express skepticism while others explore the idea further. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the feasibility of generating work through the suggested method.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the concept of free energy generation, which is subject to forum restrictions. The discussion includes speculative ideas that have not been established as feasible or scientifically valid.

imbelhassen
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Hello

So like anyone who read about capillary action, you think about free energy generation, but as I read the problem is that the water won't leave the capillary tube on the other side because of the capillary action. So you need to use the capillary force from one end of the tube then overcame it on the other end.

So what if we use a ionized liquid ( positively or negatively charged) this way the electrostatic force will be repelling the molecules from each other, so it will be added to the capillary force to get the liquid higher but then it will work against it on the other end forcing the liquid to leave the tube, will that work ?
 
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imbelhassen said:
so it will be added to the capillary force to get the liquid higher but then it will work against it on the other end
How is that supposed to work?
 
imbelhassen said:
Hello

So like anyone who read about capillary action, you think about free energy generation, but as I read the problem is that the water won't leave the capillary tube on the other side because of the capillary action. So you need to use the capillary force from one end of the tube then overcame it on the other end.

So what if we use a ionized liquid ( positively or negatively charged) this way the electrostatic force will be repelling the molecules from each other, so it will be added to the capillary force to get the liquid higher but then it will work against it on the other end forcing the liquid to leave the tube, will that work ?
Welcome to the PF.

Free Energy discussions are a forbidden topic here at the PF. This thread is closed.
Forbidden Topics said:
Pseudoscience, such as (but not limited to):

Perpetual motion and "free energy" discussions
http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/Free_Energy_Debunking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
http://www.skepdic.com/freeenergy.html
http://www.skepdic.com/perpetual.html
 
@imbelhassen -- the thread has been re-opened by the Mentors. Please clarify which type of "free energy" you are referring to. Thanks.
 
berkeman said:
@imbelhassen -- the thread has been re-opened by the Mentors. Please clarify which type of "free energy" you are referring to. Thanks.

by free energy I am referring to using a combination of capillary force and electrostatic force to create an infinite movement that can generate work. I read in the forum about machines based on capillary force, and I am suggesting an idea that may work.
 
imbelhassen said:
by free energy I am referring to using a combination of capillary force and electrostatic force to create an infinite movement that can generate work. I read in the forum about machines based on capillary force, and I am suggesting an idea that may work.
Okay, thanks for the clarification. That type of free energy is the type that we don't discuss here. Please follow the links in the quote from the rules to read more about why that kind of free energy generation cannot work.
 

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