Car Wheel Temp: Brake Rotor & Hub Heat Range

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The discussion revolves around the temperature range experienced by car wheels, specifically the brake rotors and hub, during hard braking on both street and race track conditions. Participants explore the factors influencing heat transfer and the resulting temperatures encountered by the wheel face.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the heat transfer from the brake rotor and hub to the wheel, suggesting that the rim hub acts as a heatsink.
  • One participant notes that the temperature of the rim hub can vary significantly based on conditions such as aerodynamics, mass, shape of the rim, and braking frequency.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the rim will generally be at a lower temperature than the rotor hub, and mentions the complexity of modeling the heatsink problem due to various influencing factors.
  • A participant provides an example from NASCAR, stating that brake rotors can exceed 1400 to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit during races, leading to high temperatures in the wheels and tire beads, supported by the use of cooling fans and ducts.
  • Street car brake temperatures are mentioned to typically reach up to 300 degrees Celsius, as indicated by brake pad manufacturers.

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Participants express varying opinions on the specific temperature ranges and influencing factors, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on exact temperatures or conditions.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific vehicle designs, driving conditions, and the complexity of heat transfer modeling, which remains unresolved in the discussion.

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Considering how hot brake rotors get under hard street and race track braking, what is the typical heat range experienced buy the actual wheel in contact with the rotor and hub?
 
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are you asking how hot the rim hub gets due to heat transfer? its a big heatsink, but under track conditions the rim hub can get fairly hot.
 
Physics_Kid said:
are you asking how hot the rim hub gets due to heat transfer? its a big heatsink, but under track conditions the rim hub can get fairly hot.
Yes , exactly. Due to hear transfer from rotor, and hub assembly, what temperature range does the face of the wheel encounter?
 
hard to say exactly what temp it will get to, all depends on aerodynamics, mass and shape of the rim, speeds at which wheel is moving, frequency of heat output, amount of heat generated, etc etc. if i drive w/o ever hitting the brakes, rim will be at ambient. but if i go 40-100mph and 100-40mph every 60 sec then the rim will get very hot.

i guess all i can say is, rim will be lower in temp then rotor hub. if you are looking for equations then it will be a heatsink problem with complex functions because you'll need to model the heatsink (rim) properly, which has many variables.
 
you watch tonight when 3000 pound plus NASCAR racers run the worlds fastest 1/2 mile bull ring. Right front brake rotors go excess 1400 to 1500 degree F for 500 miles. The wheel gets super hot as does the tire beads. Multiple air cooling fans and cooling ducts are used. You will see the rotors glow red during the race.
Street car typical temps are as the brake pad manufacturers plan up to 300 degree C per attached graph
 

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