Cars: Stability Control Benefits - See What Happens on Sheet Ice

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the benefits of stability control in vehicles, particularly in challenging driving conditions such as sheet ice. Participants share personal experiences with their cars, focusing on the performance of stability control systems and their impact on driving safety and handling.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses surprise at the effectiveness of stability control, noting their own lack of this feature in their car and the associated risks during winter driving.
  • Another participant shares their experience with a new all-wheel-drive Chrysler 300 equipped with stability control, highlighting its handling during sharp turns and braking.
  • A different participant humorously suggests that one must experience a poor vehicle, like a 1992 Ford Tempo, to truly appreciate a good car.
  • Some participants discuss the mechanics of torque distribution in vehicles, explaining how stability control systems can manage power to individual wheels more effectively than a human driver.
  • Concerns are raised about fuel efficiency, with one participant sharing their mileage data and expressing uncertainty about the factors influencing those numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants share various experiences and opinions regarding stability control, with some expressing appreciation for its benefits while others engage in light-hearted debate about vehicle performance and characteristics. No consensus is reached on the overall effectiveness or necessity of stability control systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, which may not encompass all driving conditions or vehicle types. Discussions about fuel efficiency are based on individual driving experiences and may vary widely.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in automotive safety features, driving performance in adverse conditions, and personal vehicle experiences may find this discussion relevant.

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As much as I hate starting a thread about a youtube video, I think this one is important


I had no idea stability control was that good; this guy was able to drive on sheet ice. My car does not have stability control or even a limited slip differential, so my left turns in winter are a lot like Russian roulette. I'll make sure my next car has this feature.
 
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Interesting, we just bought a all wheel drive Chrysler with stability control. I have yet to drive it enough to fully appreciate it. I did drive over to Ivan's the first night we had it. The roads between our homes have a series of 90deg corners, I was enjoying driving a mainly RWD car, not sure if I did anything radical enough to trigger any stability control. I did enter several corners way to fast, and braked hard. The car held the road like it was glued to it. A Chrysler 300 is not exactly a sports car but sure handled nice. I am looking forward to a drive on some of our mountain roads.
 
Integral said:
Interesting, we just bought a all wheel drive Chrysler with stability control. I have yet to drive it enough to fully appreciate it. I did drive over to Ivan's the first night we had it. The roads between our homes have a series of 90deg corners, I was enjoying driving a mainly RWD car, not sure if I did anything radical enough to trigger any stability control. I did enter several corners way to fast, and braked hard. The car held the road like it was glued to it. A Chrysler 300 is not exactly a sports car but sure handled nice. I am looking forward to a drive on some of our mountain roads.

You bought a 300? Nice! I drove quite a few of them when I worked at a Dodge dealership and they are a really nice car. I'm trying to convince my mom to buy one but she thinks they look like a "gansta car" :rolleyes: Have you driven it enough to know what kind of mileage you are getting with it?
 
Integral said:
Interesting, we just bought a all wheel drive Chrysler with stability control. I have yet to drive it enough to fully appreciate it.

I think it's supposed to be the other way around. When a car is good, you won't notice it. When a car is bad, you won't even need to question whether or not it's good or bad.
Maybe everybody needs to drive a 1992 Ford Tempo before they appreciate what a good car is (implying that the Ford Tempo is a very bad car) :biggrin:
 
LoL, got to love Hal from 5th gear.
 
I like the idea.

With normal drive, more torque goes to the wheel that's spinning the fastest, which is why you can make it around a turn when the wheels have to travel different amounts of distance. Unfortunately, that means if one tire is spinning helplessly in the mud or snow, there's virtually no torque applied to the tire that still has traction. Applying a little bit of pressure to the brakes can even out the torque a little bit and sometimes get your car unstuck.

They seem to be applying the same principle, just faster than any human could react.
 
BobG said:
They seem to be applying the same principle, just faster than any human could react.

It's not only faster than any human. The system can actually activate each brake individually. The driver doesn't have that freedom, and it makes a huge difference.
 
ShawnD said:
I think it's supposed to be the other way around. When a car is good, you won't notice it. When a car is bad, you won't even need to question whether or not it's good or bad.
Maybe everybody needs to drive a 1992 Ford Tempo before they appreciate what a good car is (implying that the Ford Tempo is a very bad car) :biggrin:

What's the other way round?

Scorpa said:
You bought a 300? Nice! I drove quite a few of them when I worked at a Dodge dealership and they are a really nice car. I'm trying to convince my mom to buy one but she thinks they look like a "gansta car" Have you driven it enough to know what kind of mileage you are getting with it?

After returning from the dealer in Portland, ~80mi freeway drive, the computer was showing an average of 16.9, I had no idea as to the conditions which gave that number but was a bit concerned. We just returned from a round trip to the dealer, and I reset the trip computer as we entered the freeway. On the way "up" to Portland we got just shay of 22mph, the round trip average was 20.9. The fact that it is net down hill all the way "up" to Portland may be the difference.

But then I drove back and had to test the accelerator a bit also... The Hemi would be fun...I've got a V6.

BTW a pet peeve of mine is driving "up" to Portland since it is due North of us, but we follow the Willamette river all they way to it's mouth at the Columbia. The total elevation change may be less then 200'.
Gangsta? A black 300 with 22" wheels? Yeah, maybe :smile:

I recognize that it has all the aerodynamic properties of a brick, where it even a little aero dynamic it would probably get 23 -24 mph, like our 300m.
 

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