Cavity in a dielectric material

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of an electric field in a dielectric material that contains a cavity when a uniform electric field is applied. Participants explore the implications of the electric displacement field and the continuity conditions at material boundaries, as well as the effects of the cavity on the electric field within it.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the electric field in the cavity remains null when a uniform electric field is applied to the dielectric material.
  • Another participant argues against the initial claim, stating that the normal component of the electric displacement field (##D##) and the tangent component of the electric field (##E##) are continuous across dielectric boundaries.
  • A similar point is reiterated by another participant, who notes that closing a surface within the cavity would result in no charge inside, leading to the conclusion that the integral of ##D## over that surface equals zero, suggesting ##D = 0##.
  • However, a later reply counters this by stating that if the flux of ##D## entering and exiting the volume is equal, then ##E## cannot be zero in the cavity. The participant suggests solving a simpler one-dimensional problem involving a three-layer parallel plate capacitor with a void layer to illustrate the continuity of ##D## and the resulting electric field in the air gap.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of the electric field in the cavity, with no consensus reached on whether the electric field remains null or not.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the continuity of electric fields and the implications of charge distribution within the cavity, which may not be fully resolved. The complexity of the problem is acknowledged, with suggestions to explore simpler models for clarity.

Leonardo Machado
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Hello friends.

If i have a dieletric material ( w/ a hole) and apply an uniform eletric field on it, the eletric field in the hole will stay null ?

Peace.
 
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No, why would one think so? The normal component of ##D=\epsilon(r)E## and the tangent component of ##E## are continuous across dielectric (actually all) material boundaries.
 
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Paul Colby said:
No, why would one think so? The normal component of ##D=\epsilon(r)E## and the tangent component of ##E## are continuous across dielectric (actually all) material boundaries.

But if i close a surface within the hole, there woud not be any charge inside, so ∫ D ⋅ dS = 0 and D = 0.
 
Leonardo Machado said:
But if i close a surface within the hole, there woud not be any charge inside, so ∫ D ⋅ dS = 0 and D = 0.
Not if as much ##D## flux exits as enters the volume as leaves which is actually the case. My suggestion is work a 1-D problem that's simple to solve completely. Try a 3 layer parallel plate capacitor with a void layer inside where you ignore fringing fields. Continuity of normal ##D## along with the total voltage drop yields an answer. You will find an ##E\ne0## in the air gap.
 

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