Centripetal Force: Tire Radius Calculation for 5.0 10-3 kg Stone

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The discussion revolves around calculating the radius of a tire based on the centripetal force acting on a stone wedged in its tread. Given the stone's mass of 5.0 x 10^-3 kg and a coefficient of static friction of 0.71, the normal force exerted by the tread is 1.8 N. The centripetal force is provided solely by static friction, leading to the equation r = v^2/(2Nμ). Participants note that the gripping force is influenced by the combined normal forces from both sides of the tread, suggesting a need to consider the total frictional force. The calculations indicate that the radius derived may not be realistic, prompting further examination of the assumptions made.
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A stone has a mass of 5.0 10-3 kg and is wedged into the tread of an automobile tire, as the drawing shows. The coefficient of static friction between the stone and each side of the tread channel is 0.71. When the tire surface is rotating at 20 m/s, the stone flies out of the tread. The magnitude FN of the normal force that each side of the tread channel exerts on the stone is 1.8 N. Assume that only static friction supplies the centripetal force, and determine the radius r of the tire.
 
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A stone has a mass of 5.0 10-3 kg and is wedged into the tread of an automobile tire, as the drawing shows. The coefficient of static friction between the stone and each side of the tread channel is 0.71. When the tire surface is rotating at 20 m/s, the stone flies out of the tread. The magnitude FN of the normal force that each side of the tread channel exerts on the stone is 1.8 N. Assume that only static friction supplies the centripetal force, and determine the radius r of the tire.

F_f = 2N\mu_{t|s} = F_c = v^2/r \rightarrow r = v^2/(2N\mu_{t|s}).
 
This cannot be true... That tire's huge. I must be missing a key fact.
 
bblake2010 said:
A stone has a mass of 5.0 10-3 kg and is wedged into the tread of an automobile tire, as the drawing shows. The coefficient of static friction between the stone and each side of the tread channel is 0.71. When the tire surface is rotating at 20 m/s, the stone flies out of the tread. The magnitude FN of the normal force that each side of the tread channel exerts on the stone is 1.8 N. Assume that only static friction supplies the centripetal force, and determine the radius r of the tire.

Welcome to PF.

Since the tire is gripping the stone between the treads, the static friction is not dependent on its mass, so much as it is on the pinching force of the treads. Since they give you that force in Newtons and it is applied on each side then the appropriate way to deal with the gripping force is as 2*u*F.

On the other side of the equation - at speed - I think you can consider that at the bottom of the cycle will be the greatest outward force since both gravity and rotational acceleration are acting on the stone.
 
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