Chances of Getting Into Grad School with a B-

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the chances of gaining admission to graduate school in physics with a B- grade in two courses. Participants explore factors influencing admissions decisions, including GPA, research experience, and other application components.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • John expresses concern about his B- grades in physics courses and seeks advice on his admission chances.
  • Some participants suggest that the overall GPA and the context of the grades (e.g., other grades, research experience) are critical in determining admission chances.
  • One participant notes that a GPA below 3.0 in physics could be problematic for some graduate schools, while a higher GPA could mitigate the impact of the B- grades.
  • Research experience, GRE scores, and letters of recommendation are highlighted as significant factors in the admissions process.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the ranking of the undergraduate program and the targeted PhD program can significantly affect the evaluation of GPA.
  • Concerns are raised about the absence of PGRE scores this year and how different programs may adjust their evaluation criteria accordingly.
  • One participant questions the value of worrying about admission chances after application deadlines have passed, suggesting that the focus should now be on awaiting results.
  • Mentorship experiences are shared, indicating variability in outcomes based on individual student profiles and application strategies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specific impact of the B- grades on admission chances, as multiple factors are discussed, and opinions vary on their relative importance.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific details about the graduate programs being applied to, the variability in admissions criteria across institutions, and the uncertainty regarding the impact of the absence of PGRE scores this year.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering graduate school in physics or related fields, particularly those concerned about their academic performance and its implications for admissions.

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I got a B- in two physics courses. I'm a senior and it is my last semester. What do you think my chances are of getting in? One of these was a problem solving course from a few years ago and I got a B- in quantum because I didn't study angular momentum operators (The last thing we did in class) and this was placed on the final. I had an 88% and after the final I lost a whopping 17% bringing me from an A to a B-.

Thanks,

John
 
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Offhand, two B- alone does not seem too bad. A lot depends on your other grades. If your other grades are all B, then your GPA is below B in your physics courses are below 3.0 and this may be a problem in some grad schools. If the other grades are near A, then your GPA could be well above 3.0. A lot depends on GRE scores (if any, considering COVID), research (if any), and letters of recommendation.

You may want to apply to some schools you regard as "safety", and where you expect a > 50% chance of getting in. After going on Gradschoolshopper, I noted some schools require only a 2.75 GPA. Some good schools mention a "holistic" treatment, where no application is automatically excluded, independent of GPA, ore GRE. Quantum is considered a core (important) course, so if you could have a choice, it would probably been better to get a B- on an elective. Unless you apply to only (or all 20) schools in the top 20 highest ranked in the country, you would likely get in somewhere.
 
My physics GPA is a 3.273 apparently. I also have research experience and an internship and an applied BS degree in mathematics (3.6 GPA) which was noted on my graduate applications.
 
Vitani1 said:
I'm a senior and it is my last semester. What do you think my chances are of getting in?

You've already applied, right? (The deadlines have pretty much passed) What is to be gained by fretting now?
 
Assessing probabilities of admission to specific grad schools is something I do for students I mentor, but a lot of info is needed to do it: Ranking of PhD program and BS program. Specific research area(s) targeted at PhD program. Quality of rec letters. GRE scores. Research record. Publication record. Performance in practice interviews. GPA is a small part of it. But a given GPA going from a top 20 BS program to a PhD program ranked around 80 is a much different deal than the same GPA going from a BS program ranked around 80 to a top 20 PhD program.

The absence of PGRE scores this year is a wild card. I expect different PhD programs to deal with it differently. Some will weigh GPAs much more heavily than years when they have PGRE scores. Some will weigh research and/or recommendations more heavily.

But, as mentioned above, the ship has sailed on this year's applications. If you get rejected by all the schools you applied to, you aimed too high. Some students who are able to ace the PGRE when it's offered again may improve their odds next year, assuming most PhD programs require/accept it again. But you really don't have any actionable decisions to make until you know the results of your applications.

I've already had two students I mentor hear back from a top 20 Ivy League school. One had a very positive interview, and one was rejected. The student that was rejected was aiming a bit high with this application. The same school is one of the lower tier schools on the list of the student who had the promising interview.
 
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