Chandrasekhar's Transitivity Logic

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Chandrasekhar's assertion regarding the transitivity of thermal equilibrium raises questions about its mathematical implications. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on the definition of transitivity in this context, which states that if system A is in thermal equilibrium with B, and B with C, then A must also be in equilibrium with C. Participants emphasize that this is a mathematical concept, and the relationship can be expressed as F(s1,s2) = 0, which implies a specific form of thermal equilibrium. There is skepticism about whether this mathematical assertion holds true without additional physical assumptions. The conversation suggests that understanding the underlying physics may be crucial for resolving these mathematical queries.
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I've just started reading Chandrasekhar's Introduction to the Study of Stellar Structure, and I'm having trouble following one of his mathematical assertions. Rather than quote the relevant parts in their entirety here, I've typeset them and linked them https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B22qV5-nFyVYSnVnQy1EYmlZQ00/edit. (For those interested, the entire book is available from the http://archive.org/details/AnIntroductionToTheStudyOfStellarStructure). I hope using an outside link isn't bad manners in forums.

What I don't understand, and would like someone to explain, is why the transitivity of thermal equilibrium is both sufficient and necessary (cf "this is then, and only then, possible...") for the condition of thermal equilibrium to have the form

t1(p1,V1) - t2(p2,V2) = 0

(same as Eq (4) in Chandrasekhar, but where I've used subscripts instead of bars). Clearly anything of that form implies transitivity, but I don't understand why transitivity implies that form. Any help?
 
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robotopia said:
What I don't understand, and would like someone to explain, is why the transitivity of thermal equilibrium is both sufficient and necessary

You'll probably get more help if you define "transitivity of thermal equilibrium" - or post in a physics section where the audience might be familiar with that phrase.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
You'll probably get more help if you define "transitivity of thermal equilibrium" - or post in a physics section where the audience might be familiar with that phrase.

Transitivity is a purely mathematical concept. I think physicists would be less likely to understand it than mathematicians. If ~ is some relation, then transitivity is the statement that if a~b and b~c, then a~c. "Transitivity of thermal equilibrium" just means that if some physical system A is in thermal equilibrium with system B, and B is in thermal equilibrium with C, then A is in thermal equilibrium with C. The fact that in this case the relation happens to have a physical interpretation doesn't make my question anything other than a purely mathematical one. Chandrasekhar himself gives the mathematical definition of thermal equilibrium in Eq (1) which I included in the link above.
 
Let me recast the statement of my question in purely mathematical terms.

Let S = \{(a,b)|a,b \in \mathbb{R}; a>0; b>0\}.

Define a function F:(S \times S) \rightarrow \mathbb{R}, and define a relation \sim on S such that two elements s_1,s_2 \in S are related s_1 \sim s_2 iff F(s_1,s_2) = 0.
If \sim is transitive (assume reflexive and symmetric only if necessary), show that F(s_1,s_2) = 0 can then and only then be expressed in the form
T_1(s_1) - T_2(s_2) = 0,
where T_1,T_2:S \rightarrow \mathbb{R} can be any arbitrary functions.
 
robotopia said:
show that F(s_1,s_2) = 0 can then and only then be expressed in the form
T_1(s_1) - T_2(s_2) = 0,
where T_1,T_2:S \rightarrow \mathbb{R} can be any arbitrary functions.

I doubt that's true. We can try a = 1/2, b = 7/2, f(x,y) = y((x-1)(x-2)(x-3))^2 + x((y-1)(y-2)(y-3))^2, which has zeroes at (1,1)(1,2),(1,3),(2,1),(2,2),(2,3),(3,1),(3,2),(3,3).

The physics problem must make stronger assumptions - perhaps something about physical laws being invariant under a linear transformation of the quantity that measures s_1,s_2.
 
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