Change in momentum, impulse force calculations

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The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum force exerted on a ball dropped from a height of 2.99m that bounces back to 1.36m. Initially, the user calculated the change in momentum but did not consider the vector nature of momentum, leading to an incorrect force value. After recognizing the importance of direction in momentum changes, the user corrected their calculations. This adjustment resulted in a change in momentum value of 2.2816, yielding the correct answer for maximum force. The conversation emphasizes the significance of accounting for direction in momentum calculations during impulse force problems.
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Homework Statement


A 178.0g ball is dropped from a height of 2.99m, bounces on a hard floor, and rebounds to a height of 1.36m. The impulse received from the floor is shown below.

(Is a picture of a graph, Y-axis is force, X-axis is time. No numbers are labelled and is simply a line starting at 0 and goes to a peak and back down to zero like a triangle)

What maximum force does the floor exert on the ball if it is exerted for 2.00ms

Homework Equations



Impulse = Change in Momentum

Momentum = mv
Ui = mgy
KE = 1/2 mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


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Ui = mgy
=5.2157
1/2 mv^2 = 5.2157
v=7.655m/s

(to find velocity just as ball hits the ground)

Pi = (0.178)(7.655)
=1.3626

(Initial Momentum)

Finding velocity just as it bounces back from floor
Uf = KEi
v=5.1629m/s

Pf = 0.919

(final momentum)

Change in momentum = 0.433

DeltaP(change in momentum) = 1/2 Fmax (0.002)

Fmax = 443N (not correct answer) where did I go wrong?
 
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Momentum is a vector quantity. You haven't taken into account the change in direction at the bounce.
 
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Did you take into account that momentum is a vector quantity, so it has direction? How does the final direction of momentum compare to the initial direction of momentum?

[EDIT: oops, my post is redundant to gneill's.]
 
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gneill said:
Momentum is a vector quantity. You haven't taken into account the change in direction at the bounce.

Ouch, thanks a lot that negative sign fixed things up!

DeltaP =2.2816 got me the right answer!
 
TSny said:
Did you take into account that momentum is a vector quantity, so it has direction? How does the final direction of momentum compare to the initial direction of momentum?
Yeah that fixed things up :)
 
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