Change in Voltage across a Capacitor?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between charge (Q), voltage (V), and capacitance (C) in capacitors, particularly focusing on how changes in charge affect voltage across a capacitor. It includes theoretical considerations and clarifications regarding capacitors connected to a battery versus those that are disconnected.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that increasing the charge Q on a capacitor should lead to an increase in voltage V, as expressed by the relationship C = Q/V, assuming capacitance C remains constant.
  • Others clarify that the behavior of voltage depends on whether the capacitor is connected to a battery or disconnected, noting that a connected capacitor maintains a constant voltage while a disconnected one maintains a constant charge.
  • A participant mentions that adjusting capacitance while connected to a battery results in a time delay for voltage to return to its original value, which is influenced by the time constant (RC) of the circuit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between charge and voltage, but there are nuances regarding the conditions under which these relationships hold, particularly concerning the connection to a battery and the effects of capacitance adjustments.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the constancy of capacitance and the conditions of connection to external devices that are not fully explored. The discussion does not resolve the implications of these conditions on the behavior of voltage and charge.

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When you increase the charge Q on a capacitor, why don't you increase voltage V across it as well? Wouldn't higher Q increase E, and since V = Ed for a uniform E, V increases also? I know that for a uniform E across a capacitor, E stays the same regardless of distance d between the two plates, but doesn't the amount of charge on the capacitor still affect E (and would therefore affect V)?
 
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I would agree with you, that an increase in Q should increase V. The capacitance of a capacitor is given by

[tex] C = \frac{Q}{V}[/tex]

where C depends on the physical properties of the capacitor. Stuff like the plate geometry and the medium between the plates. If C is constant, then V should scale linearly with Q.
 
Fenn said:
I would agree with you, that an increase in Q should increase V. The capacitance of a capacitor is given by

[tex] C = \frac{Q}{V}[/tex]

where C depends on the physical properties of the capacitor. Stuff like the plate geometry and the medium between the plates. If C is constant, then V should scale linearly with Q.

true Q=CV
 
Also, just to clarify:

The difference b/w a charged capacitor disconnected from a battery and one that is still connected to a battery is that the latter maintains a constant V across the capacitor regardless of distance d between the plates, and the former maintains a constant Q on the plates (assuming there's no discharge)?


V = Ed

C = eA/d

Q = CV

Thanks
 
That is correct. If you are adjusting the capacitance by any method, then the voltage will remain constant if there is an applied potential from a battery. If the capacitor is disconnected from any external device, the charge cannot flow, and thus Q will remain constant.
 
Fenn said:
That is correct. If you are adjusting the capacitance by any method, then the voltage will remain constant if there is an applied potential from a battery. If the capacitor is disconnected from any external device, the charge cannot flow, and thus Q will remain constant.

And in addition to this if C is adjusted with the battery connected it takes time for V to come back to its original value this time depending on the time constant(RC) of the circuit.I think this is the principle behind the capacitor microphone.
 

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