Change of Variables Legendre's Equation

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The discussion centers on solving Legendre's equation for spherical harmonics and eigenvalues in the m = 0 case. Participants are attempting to rewrite the equation using the substitution u = cos θ, but are encountering difficulties with derivatives. Key issues arise in correctly applying the chain and product rules when transforming the second derivative with respect to θ. Clarifications are provided regarding the simplification of terms, particularly the relationship between sin²θ and (1 - u²). Ultimately, the conversation highlights the importance of careful derivative computation in achieving the correct form of the equation.
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Homework Statement


Determine the spherical harmonics and the eigenvalues of \vec{\hat{L}}^2 by solving the eigenvalue equation \vec{\hat{L}}^2 |\lambda, m \rangle in position space,

[\frac{1}{sin \theta} \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta} ( sin \theta \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta} ) + \frac{1}{sin^2 \theta} \frac{\partial^2}{\partial \phi^2}] \Theta_{\lambda,m}(\theta) e^{im\phi}

restrict your attention to the m = 0 case. Rewrite the equation in terms of u = cos \theta and show that it becomes

(1-u^2) \frac{d^2 \Theta_{\lambda, 0}}{du^2}-2u \frac{d \Theta_{\lambda,m}}{du} + \lambda \Theta_{\lambda,0} = 0

Homework Equations


distributing the \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta} and recognizing that the double phi derivative turns to zero I am working with the equation -[cot \theta \frac{\partial}{\partial \theta} + \frac{\partial^2}{\partial \theta^2}] \Theta_{\lambda,0} = \lambda \Theta_{\lambda,0}

so, using u = cos \theta I get that du = -sin \theta d \theta, which in turn gives me that \frac{d}{d \theta} = - sin \theta \frac{d}{du}

So I'm pretty sure I'm messing up when I am substituting in for \frac{d^2}{d^2 \theta} = -sin \theta \frac{d}{du} (-sin \theta \frac{d}{du})

I'm then saying -sin \theta = \frac{du}{d \theta} then using the chain rule I get \frac{d^2}{d^2 \theta} = -sin [ \frac {d}{d \theta} \frac{d}{du} + \frac{du}{d \theta} \frac {d^2}{du^2}] = -sin \theta [-sin \theta \frac{d^2}{du^2}-sin \theta \frac{d^2}{du^2}] = 2 sin^2 \theta \frac{d^2}{du^2}<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


I'd appreciate any help. When i put this all together I'm getting
2(1-u^2)\frac{d^2 \Theta_{\lambda,0}}{du^2} - u \frac{d \Theta_{\lambda,0}}{du} + \lambda \Theta_{\lambda,0}=0
I'm pretty sure it's just me doing something stupid while trying to find what the second derivative with respect to theta equals after the change of variable.
 
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The LaTeX of your most important steps seems screwed upnan it is therefore difficult to tell exactly what you have done.

Let me just say this though: You are taking the long way around. I suggest not using the derivatives to make it two terms before making the substitution.
 
Ok,

I've tried this way as well and I always get snagged at the same part.

\frac{d}{d \theta}(sin \theta \frac {d}{d \theta})
= sin \theta \frac{d}{du}(sin^2 \theta \frac{d}{du})
one term is sin^3 \theta \frac{d^2}{du^2}
I think I keep messing up the second term. How do you compute it?
 
Note that ##\sin^2\theta = 1 - u^2##. That should help.
 
Kuruman, I got that. that term works out perfect. But I'm not getting a -2u for my first derivative term, I only have -u. I'm not applying the chain or product rule correctly when computing what d^2/d(theta)^2 is.

What does \frac{d}{du} sin^2 \theta come out to?
 
I JUST GOT IT! ugh, I don't know why I just didn't see how to do \frac{d}{du} sin^2 \theta

Thanks all.
 
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