Changing an ERM (eccentric rotating mass) motor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around modifying an eccentric rotating mass (ERM) motor for a project, specifically focusing on how to control its vibration frequency and whether it can be powered by a rechargeable battery. Participants explore the technical aspects of motor operation and potential modifications.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a layman's explanation for modifying an ERM motor to vibrate at specific frequencies and inquires about using a rechargeable battery.
  • Another participant notes that the vibration frequency of the motor is related to its speed and that it can operate at low voltages, such as 1.5 volts.
  • A participant questions how to control the vibration frequency based on the motor specifications and asks for clarification on modifications.
  • One participant confirms that cell phones use rechargeable batteries and suggests varying the motor speed by adjusting the voltage.
  • Another participant describes the motor as a permanent magnet brushed DC motor with an eccentric mass, explaining that the vibration frequency is proportional to the voltage applied. They mention the possibility of using feedback control for more precise frequency stabilization.
  • The same participant states that the motor can be powered by various battery types, including rechargeable options, and mentions that mains power could also be used.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between motor speed, voltage, and vibration frequency. However, there is no consensus on the specific modifications required or the best methods for controlling the frequency.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding electrical engineering concepts, and there are assumptions about the user's familiarity with circuit design and motor control techniques.

BillIsTheDill
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I'm not well versed in electrical engineering, but I was looking at this. http://www.precisionmicrodrives.com/vibrating-vibrator-vibration-motors/pager-motors-erm-motors
It suits my needs for a project, but I need to modify some aspects of it.
In layman's terms, can someone explain to me how I can make it vibrate at certain frequencies?
Also, from my understanding, it runs when a current is run through it. Can it be run on a rechargeable battery, if so, how would I make the necessary modifications?
 
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Small motors with an eccentric (off-center) rotor make vibrators for cell phones. The vibration frequency is tied to motor speed. They are designed to work with as little at 1.5 volts.

http://www.precisionmicrodrives.com/vibrating-vibrator-vibration-motors/pager-motors-erm-motors
 
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Thanks. When I look at the specs it shows a wide range of frequencies at various voltages. How/can I control this? Also, am I right about the other part. If so, how can I modify it?
Remember, layman terms please.
 
It is used in cell phones. They use rechargagle batteries, don't they?

You vary the speed by varying the voltage. Are you asking how to design a circuit to do that?
 
As far as I can see from the link you provide, these are just permanent magnet brushed DC motors with an eccentric mass attached to the spindle.

As said earlier, the vibration frequency will be the motor speed and for PMDC motors that is more or less proportional to the voltage applied to the motor. So you would just need to find the voltage which gave the required frequency, then use a constant voltage source. (If this "more or less" is not accurate enough, there are more complex DC motor control circuits which can control the speed more accurately. Otherwise you'd need to monitor the frequency and apply feedback to stabilise it. The "mol" variation is due to friction varying with temperature and, in the long term, wear.)

The electricity used can come from any source capable of supplying the required current at the necessary voltage. The link suggests just about any sort of battery including rechargeables: "... ideal for battery power supplies. The combination of voltages makes these motors suitable for single / double cell power buses of Alkaline, Zinc, Silver Oxide and single cell Lithium primary sources, NiCd, NimH, Li-ion secondary rechargeable batteries."
A mains power supply could obviously provide whatever you want.
 
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