Changing Order of Integration in Triple Integrals

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The discussion revolves around changing the order of integration in a triple integral involving the limits defined by a sphere. The original integral is expressed in the order of dx, dy, dz, and participants are exploring how to rewrite it in the order of dz, dy, dx.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the limits of integration for the variable z and whether they should remain as functions of x and y or be expressed as constants. There is also consideration of the geometric interpretation of the integral as representing a portion of a sphere.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the limits of integration and the geometric context of the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly express the integral after changing the order of integration, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original integral is defined over the first octant of a sphere with radius 3, which influences the limits of integration. The discussion includes considerations of symmetry in the problem.

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Homework Statement



Given

\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}} dx dy dz

express the integral as an equivalent in dz dy dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



From the origial limits z goes from 0 to when x^2 + y^2 <= 9

For dz I have

\int{0}{ sqrt(-x^2-y^2+9)} dz

Is this right so far?
 
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boneill3 said:

Homework Statement



Given

\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}} dx dy dz

express the integral as an equivalent in dz dy dx

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



From the origial limits z goes from 0 to when x^2 + y^2 <= 9

For dz I have

\int{0}{ sqrt(-x^2-y^2+9)} dz

Is this right so far?
In the original integral z goes from 0 to 3, for each z, y from 0 to [itex]\sqrt{9-z^2}[/itex], and, for each y and z, x goes from 0 to [itex]\sqrt{9- x^2- y^2}[/itex].

That last is, of course, the upper hemisphere of [itex]x^2+ y^2+ z^2= 9[/itex] while the y integral is over the upper semi-circle of [itex]y^2+ z^2= 9[/itex]. Finally the z integral over a radius of that circle and sphere. This is the first "octant" of the sphere of radius 3. Yes, If you change the order of integration so you are integrating with respect to z first, z goes from 0 to [itex]\sqrt{9- x^2+ y^2}[/itex].

Because of symmetry, this is a very easy problem!
 
For dx

Do you leave the limit as \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}}dx or do you change it to

\int{0}{3} dx


\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{ sqrt(9-x^2-y^2)} dz dy dx


regards
 
boneill3 said:
For dx

Do you leave the limit as \int{0}{sqrt{(9-y^2-z^2)}}dx or do you change it to

\int{0}{3} dx


\int{0}{3} \int{0}{sqrt{(9-z^2)}} \int{0}{ sqrt(9-x^2-y^2)} dz dy dx


regards
Since the x integral is the "outer" integral here, its limits of integration must be numbers, not functions of y and z! Yes, the limits are 0 and 3.

My point about the symmetry is that since this is an octant of a sphere, all choices of order are the same: except for "permuting" x, y, and z, those are exactly the limits of integration you had originally.
 
Thanks
 

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