Charge Radiation: Acceleration & Constant Charges

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The discussion centers on the relationship between accelerating charges and radiation, specifically addressing the apparent contradiction between the radiation reaction force being zero for constant acceleration and the expectation that all accelerating charges radiate. Participants explore the implications of constant versus variable acceleration on radiation emission.

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  • One participant questions how the radiation reaction force can be zero when a charge is under constant acceleration, while also asking about radiation from a charge that is not accelerating.
  • Another participant asserts that the radiation force is not zero, suggesting that the part of the radiation force proportional to acceleration is combined with the inertia force.
  • A further reply elaborates on the implications of constant acceleration, proposing that while radiation occurs, it may not propagate to infinity but rather remain within the charge's field. This participant also raises questions about the direction of radiation during deceleration and its energy source.
  • One participant introduces the Larmor formula, stating it applies to linearly accelerated nonrelativistic charges and provides a mathematical expression for the power radiated.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of radiation from charges under constant acceleration, with no consensus reached on the implications of the radiation reaction force or the behavior of radiation in various acceleration scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge complexities regarding the behavior of radiation fields, including the dependence on acceleration type and frame of reference, but do not resolve these issues.

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How is the fact that ALL accelerating charges radiate reconciled with the fact that the radiation reaction force is ZERO when the acceleration of the charge is CONSTANT??

Also, if you are accelerating, but the charge is NOT, do you see any radiation coming from the charge or not?


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the radiation force is not zero. Tthe part of the radiation force which is propotional to the acceleration is combined wth the inertia force.
If you are accelerating, then you will see oscillating electromagnetic field, so you should see a radiation.
 
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the radiation force is not zero. Tthe part of the radiation force which is propotional to the acceleration is combined wth the inertia force.
If you are accelerating, then you will see oscillating electromagnetic field, so you should see a radiation.
So does that mean that when the acceleration is constant the charge radiates but the radiation doesn't go off to infinity, but rather stays with the charge (in the charge's field)? What if in your frame of reference the charge is undergoing constant DEceleration? Now the charge is doing work on whatever is decelerating it, that energy has to come from somewhere, does that mean that the radiation(i.e. the Poynting vector) is directed TOWARD the charge? But if the acceleration is not constant, then I guess the radiation goes off to infinity and can't be recovered? Ok, this doesn't seem right... The radiation field is proportional to 1/r. But if the acceleration is constant, it's still proportional to 1/r, right? So the radiation DOES go off to infinity, otherwise I'd think that it would be proportional to 1/r^2.
 
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OK, thre is so called Larmor formula for a linearly accelerated nonrelativistic charge

[tex]P=\frac{1}{4\pi \epsilon_0}\frac{2e^2\ddot x^2}{3c}[/tex]

Larmor formula is applicable for acceleration in arbitrary direction to the velocity
 

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