Charging large capacitor banks with an LDO regulator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of charging large capacitor banks using a limited current Low Dropout (LDO) regulator. Participants explore various approaches and considerations related to the stability and current limiting behavior of LDOs in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether an LDO will become unstable if the current drawn by the capacitors exceeds its maximum current rating.
  • Another participant suggests that the behavior of the LDO depends on its design, noting that some LDOs turn off when hitting the current limit, while others maintain a fixed current until the load is removed.
  • A proposal is made to use an adjustable LDO with an external reference to control the charging rate of the capacitors, although caution is advised regarding potential output lag and saturation of the LDO pass element.
  • One participant suggests overcharging the capacitors intentionally and then using a weak parallel resistor to bleed off excess charge to achieve the desired voltage.
  • Another simpler approach is proposed, involving placing a power resistor in series with the LDO output to limit the maximum current into the capacitors, with considerations for stability and power rating of the resistor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of LDOs under overload conditions, with no consensus reached on the best approach for charging large capacitor banks.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions regarding the input to the LDO and the characteristics of the capacitor bank, but specific details about these parameters are not provided.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in power electronics, particularly those exploring methods for charging capacitors with LDO regulators and the associated stability concerns.

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I'm trying to see if charging large capacitor banks with a limited current LDO is feasible.

If the capacitors draw current past the maximum current of the LDO, will the LDO become unstable or will it be current limited?
 
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I suppose it depends on the LDO and the proposed input to the LDO.

I think most just turn off when they hit the current limit (not what you want). Others just stay fixed current until the strong load is removed (this is what you want).

Another option might be to use an adjustable LDO that takes an external reference. You can then slowly ramp up the reference with a dv/dt that limits max I for your C. You have to be careful with this though because at the beginning there will be lag on the output and the error signal could cause the LDO pass element to saturate, which would likely blow it out (depending on how much C were talking about).

What were you planning on using as the input to the LDO, about how much C is in the bank?

Another, possibly better option (assuming the reason you want the LDO is to make a precise voltage on the cap) would be to over charge the caps on purpose, then remove that power source, and finally slowly bleed off the excess charge with a weak parallel R. Remove the R when the right voltage has been obtained.
 
Oh ya, even more simply... You can also just put a power resistor in series with the output of the LDO to limit max I into the caps. Ipeak = Vout/R. The LDO feedback point needs to be the input to the series R to keep it stable. Then make sure the R can handle Ipeak*Ipeak*R Watts.

This assumes you don't need a good transient response on the LDO (and presumably you don't since there is a lot of output C).
 
Thanks so much for the responses
 

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