Checking if Rationals are Closed Under Addition and Scalar Multiplication

In summary, to say that rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication means that the result of adding or multiplying two rational numbers will also be a rational number. This can be checked using the closure property, which states that the result of an operation on two elements of a set will still be an element of that set. It is important to know this property because it allows us to confidently perform these operations on rational numbers without dealing with irrational numbers. Rationals also possess other properties, such as commutativity, associativity, and distributivity, which make calculations easier. An example of checking if rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication is adding 1/2 and 3/4, and multiplying 2/3
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Homework Statement



Check to see if the (vector space) set of rational numbers is closed under addition and scalar multiplication

Homework Equations



The book says this holds for addition but fails for scalar multiplication.

The Attempt at a Solution



Im a little confused. You can add two of the same rational number like (1/2) and (1/2) and get an integer. Now your out of the vector space. Where is my logic failing me?
 
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Integers are rationals: 2 = 2/1 = 4/2 = ...
 
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it's always the obvious. how funny
 

Related to Checking if Rationals are Closed Under Addition and Scalar Multiplication

1. What does it mean for rationals to be closed under addition and scalar multiplication?

To say that rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication means that when you add or multiply two rational numbers, the result will also be a rational number. In other words, the set of rational numbers is closed under these two operations, and you will never end up with an irrational number.

2. How can we check if rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication?

To check if rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication, we can use the closure property. This property states that if you perform an operation on two elements of a set, the result will still be an element of that set. So, to check if rationals are closed under addition, we can add any two rational numbers and see if the result is also a rational number. Similarly, for scalar multiplication, we can multiply any rational number by a scalar and see if the result is still a rational number.

3. Why is it important to know if rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication?

It is important to know if rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication because it allows us to perform these operations on rational numbers with confidence. If we know that the result will always be a rational number, we can avoid dealing with irrational numbers and their complexities. This is especially useful in practical applications, such as engineering and finance, where precise calculations are necessary.

4. Are there any other properties that rationals possess?

Yes, besides the closure property, rationals also have the commutative, associative, and distributive properties. These properties state that the order of operations does not matter, and that you can add or multiply rational numbers in any order and still get the same result. The distributive property also allows us to simplify expressions involving rational numbers.

5. Can you provide an example of checking if rationals are closed under addition and scalar multiplication?

Sure, let's say we want to check if the rationals are closed under addition. We can take the rational numbers 1/2 and 3/4 and add them together: 1/2 + 3/4 = 5/4. Since 5/4 is also a rational number, we can conclude that rationals are closed under addition. For scalar multiplication, we can take the rational number 2/3 and multiply it by the scalar 5: 5(2/3) = 10/3. Again, since 10/3 is a rational number, we can say that rationals are closed under scalar multiplication.

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