Circuit analyse -- LR circuit frequency response

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving a problem related to the frequency response of an LR circuit, specifically finding the value of X in the context of given voltage equations. The scope includes homework-related inquiries, techniques for circuit analysis, and the application of phasors and transfer functions.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Participants express frustration with the problem, indicating a potential misunderstanding or fatigue affecting their ability to solve it.
  • Some participants suggest using phasors as a tool for analysis, referencing the relationship between voltage and phasor representation.
  • There is mention of considering the transfer function as a method to solve for X.
  • One participant proposes using the voltage divider technique, questioning its applicability alongside the transfer function.
  • Participants inquire about the techniques that would be used if the inductor were replaced with a resistor, indicating a comparative analysis of circuit components.
  • Suggestions are made to search for examples of phasor voltage dividers for further understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, with multiple techniques and methods being proposed and discussed without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various mathematical tools and concepts, such as phasors and transfer functions, but do not clarify specific assumptions or limitations in their approaches. The discussion reflects a range of understanding and application of circuit analysis techniques.

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Homework Statement



Find X [/B]

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Homework Equations



V1(t)=8cos(12000t)
V0(t)=Xcos(12000t+θ)

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
I've tried quiet a lot actually, but all in vain. Seems like I am either misunderstanding something, or i am just too tired to think at the moment. Either way, I am frustated!
 
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8700 said:

Homework Statement



Find X [/B]

View attachment 108908

Homework Equations



V1(t)=8cos(12000t)
V0(t)=Xcos(12000t+θ)

The Attempt at a Solution


[/B]
I've tried quiet a lot actually, but all in vain. Seems like I am either misunderstanding something, or i am just too tired to think at the moment. Either way, I am frustated!
What technique would you expect to use for this type of problem? If the inductor were replaced with a resistor, what would your answer be?

Have you worked with Phasors? What about Differential Equations? You will probably use one of those techniques to solve this, depending on what you have been learning in class...
 
we have mostly been working with phasors, which is those tools i am using.

I know that the following.

v(t)=Re{Vejωt}=VAcos(ωt+Φ)

and

V=VAe=VA∠Φ

somehow I can't seem to get further then this.

I am considering to use the transfer function, and use that to solve for X
 
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8700 said:
we have mostly been working with phasors, which is those tools i am using.

I know that the following.

v(t)=Re{Vejωt}=VAcos(ωt+Φ)

and

V=VAe=VA∠Φ

somehow I can't seem to get further then this.

I am considering to use the transfer function, and use that to solve for X
If the inductor were replaced with a resistor, what technique would you use?

And with the inductor put back in place, how can you use phasor impedances to do a similar calculation?
 
Hmm I would probably use the voltage divider

Could I not do that with the transfor function?
 
8700 said:
Hmm I would probably use the voltage divider

Could I not do that with the transfor function?
:smile:
 
I take that as an yes :D
 
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I take that as an yes :D
Yep. And if you want to see some good examples of how to work with them, just do a Google Images search on Phasor Voltage Divider... :smile:
 

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