Circuit Analysis: Find E3 Given Diagram

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The discussion revolves around finding the emf E3 in a circuit, with the stipulation that the state of the switch (open or closed) does not affect the outcome. Participants emphasize the need for a visual diagram to provide accurate assistance, as the problem cannot be solved without it. Kirchoff's laws are recommended as a method to approach the solution, and users express the importance of demonstrating effort in homework forums. There is some confusion regarding the implications of the switch's state, with suggestions that E3 may be independent of other variables. The conversation highlights the necessity of clarity in problem statements for effective problem-solving.
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The questions says that it doesn't matter if the switch is open or closed.

It asks, what is the emf E3 in terms of the other quantities shown.

I have attached a diagram of the circuit.

Thank you in advance.
 

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can anyone help with this problem please...
 
polymerase said:
can anyone help with this problem please...

We can't help because we can't see the figure yet (it has not been approved for viewing yet). Unless you have it available on some website and you provide the link or you describe it in words, we will have to wait before we can help.
 
If it doesn't matter, then E3 is just the voltage between those two points with the switch open.
 
Use Kirchoff's laws to solve this problem and ask if u get stuck somewhere.

The thing is.. in the homework forum.. we can't really help you unless you show some efforts from your side too.
 
rohanprabhu said:
Use Kirchoff's laws to solve this problem and ask if u get stuck somewhere.

The thing is.. in the homework forum.. we can't really help you unless you show some efforts from your side too.

What he said.

Also, is the switch open or closed? If it's open, then your answer is very easy.
 
polymerase said:
The questions says that it doesn't matter if the switch is open or closed.

that is impossible. You see.. switches were invented for a reason.
 
My guess is that the original problem statement is actually asking for E3 for either state of the switch.
 
wait a minute.. since E3 is the e.m.f of the battery.. isn't it totally arbitrary and as such independent of any other variables?
 
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