Circuit analysis - very nearly finished

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The discussion revolves around finding the values of node voltages N(1,2,3) in a circuit analysis problem, specifically focusing on the application of mesh analysis and voltage calculations at different nodes. The context is homework-related, with participants attempting to solve a specific circuit problem.

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  • Homework-related
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents their findings from mesh analysis, providing specific current values for i(1,2,3,4).
  • Another participant suggests redrawing the circuit to clarify the node voltages, indicating that the voltage at Node 2 can be calculated using the formula (I3-I4)R5.
  • A participant expresses difficulty in calculating N_2, stating that their formula N_2=N_1-(1000i_3) does not yield the expected result.
  • One participant corrects the earlier calculation for Node 2, providing a specific voltage value and attributing the discrepancy to a potential rounding error.
  • Another participant confirms they have calculated N_2 but receive an unexpected voltage of 48.27V, indicating a possible misunderstanding or error in their approach.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations for node voltages, with some agreeing on the method of calculating Node 2 while others struggle with the results. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct values for N_2 and N_3.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential rounding errors and misunderstandings in the calculations, but these issues remain unresolved as participants continue to refine their approaches.

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Homework Statement



Find the value of N(1,2,3) in attached circuit

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The Attempt at a Solution


I've found i(1,2,3,4) from mesh analysis as:
[tex]i_1=1.44159mA,i_2=0.919142mA,i_3=0.396691mA,i_4=-0.08609047mA[/tex]

now I am having trouble finding N_2 and N_3 from this.

Thanks for any help.
 

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Don't let the schematic confuse you. It might help to redraw the circuit as below. Redrawing in this manner does not affect the nodes, since the voltage is the same across a wire. I assume that the four mesh currents you found are from redrawing as I did below. The voltage at Node 2 is the voltage across R5, which is, based on my diagram, (I3-I4)R5. The voltage at Node 3 is a simple voltage divider, and if we draw a path from ground to that node, we get: 5V + I4*R7 = Voltage at Node 3.
 

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I did see that, what I have for N_2 is N_2=N_1-(1000i_3) but it doesn't work. I know my currents are right because I have checked in multisim. N_2 should equal 4.81V but I can't get this.

Thanks
 
Sorry, I edited my post. Reread what I had done. If you do what I said for Node 2 you will get the right answer:

Voltage at Node 2 = (I3-I4)R5 = (0.396691mA--0.08609047mA)*10000 = 4.83V

A bit off, perhaps a rounding error, but I believe this is correct. Just remember, when you are trying to find those node voltages, you must subtract the mesh currents as I did, i.e. I3-I4, since the current going down that branch is indeed I3-I4 based on the way I redrew the schematic. The same process follows for Node 3.
 
Thanks for your help Maru
 
I just did N_2 and it doesn't work, it gives me 48.27V?
 
sorry yes it does
 

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