Circuit Theory Problem: Find Vx for 5A Source to Supply 60W

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a circuit theory problem where participants are trying to determine the voltage Vx in a circuit supplied by a 5A current source delivering 60W of power. The focus is on applying circuit analysis techniques such as Kirchhoff's laws, current and voltage division, and Ohm's law, without the use of superposition.

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  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how to approach the problem, particularly regarding the configuration of the circuit and the application of basic laws.
  • Another suggests using superposition to find the voltage across the 5A source, assuming it is part of the course material.
  • A participant mentions they have not been introduced to superposition and emphasizes the need to use KCL, KVL, current division, voltage division, and Ohm's law instead.
  • There is a suggestion to redraw the circuit for clarity, which may help in applying KVL to find the voltage drop across a resistor.
  • Participants discuss the potential complexity of using KCL and KVL compared to superposition, with some indicating uncertainty about starting the problem without superposition.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that KCL, KVL, current division, voltage division, and Ohm's law are the methods to be used for this problem. However, there is disagreement on the use of superposition, with some participants suggesting it while others clarify that it is not part of their current learning.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the circuit's configuration and the application of various circuit analysis techniques. There is a noted lack of familiarity with superposition, which may limit the approaches available to solve the problem.

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Hey,

I'm having a bit of difficulty with this specific circuit theory problem... We understand the basics, Ohm's law, Kirchoff's voltage and current laws, voltage and current division... I'm just confused about what to do with this problem:

Find the value of Vx in the circuit below such that the power supplied by the 5-A source is 60W.

http://synthdriven.com/images/deletable/EEN201-03.jpg

I mean, I figure I'd start with the 5A current source... P=IV, so the potential over that current source would be 12v? I don't know, I'm really confused. The shape of this thing has me confused as well, what's in parallel with what and what's in series?

I'm completely stumped. Any pointers on how to go about this problem?
 
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You didn't mentioned superposition, so I'll assume that it is part of the course too.

You could try to use superposition (of the 4 sources) to work out to the 12V across the 5A source. From there, it should be possible to know what value Vx is.
 
haven't been introduced to superposition yet...
 
In which case, is it possible that you learn about the method and apply it on the problem? Here is a good place to start:
http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_10/6.html"

You could, of course, use something in the like of KVL or KCL to solve the problem, but I don't think it will be any easier than superposition.
 
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we haven't learned superposition yet, this is an exercise to teach us how to use KCL KVL current division, voltage division and ohm's law to find values

i just don't know how to start this problem using KCL KCL current division, voltage division and ohm's law... not superposition... I'm confused with where to start
 
If the picture is confusing you, begin by redrawing it with all of the shorts gone, so the element ends touch each other and there are no straight segments of wire connecting nodes.

If you do that you should get a triangle at the bottom because everything at the bottom is touching so you can pinch that together to one node. Then since you have a voltage source on the left and you figued out V through the 5 amp source, you can use KVL to find the voltage drop across the 4Ohm resistor. Now you should know the voltage and current for every element below the 3A current source, and I won't spoil the rest for you but do similarly to the remaining pieces and you should be able to find Vx easily.
 

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