Circular motion-centripetal acceleration

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between linear velocity and angular displacement in circular motion. A user is struggling with the LaTeX code and the formulas for centripetal acceleration and velocity change. They question the validity of the formula delta(v) = v * delta(T) when delta(T) does not approach zero, suggesting that the length of the circular arc differs significantly in such cases. Another participant clarifies that the correct relationship involves the arclength and angular velocity, emphasizing that v = r * (dθ/dt) is not equivalent to delta(v) = v * delta(θ). The conversation highlights confusion over the application of these formulas in varying conditions of angular displacement.
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hi

This latex code is giving me some problems. I write one thing, it displays something completely different

In circular motion velocity only changes direction but not size

change of velocity - \Delta v
Change of angle - \Delta T
Velocity - V
Centripetal acceleration - a

delta(V) = V * delta(T)

When delta(T) approaches its limit (goes to zero), change of velocity has same direction as acceleration vector?

We compute the magnitude of velocity change with :

Delta(v) = v * Delta(T)

I see this being true when change of angle approaches its limit ( goes to zero ), since then length of circular arc ( with radius begin velocity vector ) equals \Delta v. But that is not true if delta(T) is not approaching limit. So how can we use formula

delta(v) = V * delta(T)

in cases were delta(T) is not approaching zero, since I assume length of circle arc is quite different than delta(T) if delta(T) doesn't go to zero?

cheers
 
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I think your original assumption may be incorrect. If you want to relate the linear velocity of the object on the circle circumference with the change in angle, it would be:

s = r\theta
\frac{ds}{dt} = r\frac{d\theta}{dt}
v = r\frac{d\theta}{dt}

where s is the circle arclength, r is the circle radius, and theta is the angle. The \frac{d\theta}{dt} would be equal to your \Delta T.
 
mezarashi said:
I think your original assumption may be incorrect. If you want to relate the linear velocity of the object on the circle circumference with the change in angle, it would be:

s = r\theta
\frac{ds}{dt} = r\frac{d\theta}{dt}
v = r\frac{d\theta}{dt}

where s is the circle arclength, r is the circle radius, and theta is the angle. The \frac{d\theta}{dt} would be equal to your \Delta T.

I don't get it. First of all, v = r\frac{d\theta}{dt} is not same formula as delta(v)=v*delta(theta)

I still don't understand why delta(v) = v * delta(theta) would give us correct result when delta(theta) is anything but d\theta ?
 
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