Circular Motion, Velocity at top/bottom question

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The discussion revolves around calculating the forces acting on a rider in a 16-meter diameter rotating ring amusement park ride. The ring completes one rotation every 4.5 seconds, resulting in a linear velocity of 11.17 m/s. The acceleration at the top of the ride is calculated to be 15.6 m/s², leading to a normal force of 857.8 N at the top. The equations provided in the textbook clarify the differences in normal force calculations at the top and bottom of the circular motion.

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Homework Statement



In an amusement park ride, passengers stand inside a 16-m-diameter roating ring. After the ring has acquired sufficient speed, it tilts into a vertical plane.
Suppose the ring rotates once every 4.5 seconds. If a riders mass is 55 kg, with how much force does the ring push on her at the top of the ride? At the bottom?

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First I solved for velocity:

8 m radius * 2pi = 16pi m circumference
16pi m / 4.5 s = 11.17 m/s

Then acceleration:
a=(v^2)/r = (124.77)/8= 15.6 m/s^2

Sum of forces in radial direction at top = n + mg = ma = 55 kg * 15.6 m/s^2 = 857.8 N
n + mg = 857.8 N


If I follow this logic, I would get the same answer for the sum of forces at the bottom.
My book gives the equation n=mg + [m(v_top)^2]/r and n= [m(v_bottom)^2] - mg .
I understand this, because at the top, the normal and gravitational force point in the same direction, and at the bottom they point in different directions. The problem is, I don't know how to computer the velocity at the top or at the bottom. My book also gives the equation v_c = sqrt(rg) which is the slowest speed at which the object can complete rotation, but I don't think this ride is traveling near that speed.

Can anyone tell me how to find the velocity at the top or bottom of circular motion? I'm pretty sure this is uniform, but I'm not sure.
 
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swooshfactory said:
In an amusement park ride, passengers stand inside a 16-m-diameter roating ring. After the ring has acquired sufficient speed, it tilts into a vertical plane.
Suppose the ring rotates once every 4.5 seconds. If a riders mass is 55 kg, with how much force does the ring push on her at the top of the ride? At the bottom?

Can anyone tell me how to find the velocity at the top or bottom of circular motion? I'm pretty sure this is uniform, but I'm not sure.

Hi swooshfactory! :smile:

Yes it is uniform … the question makes that clear.

It's a powered ride. :smile:
 

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