Studying Class average for my physics mid-term was 8/30, Seriously

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The discussion highlights concerns about the difficulty of understanding physics concepts, particularly in electricity and magnetism, despite achieving good grades through memorization. The student expresses frustration with the teaching style, which focuses on mathematical proofs without fostering comprehension. They note that the class average was alarmingly low, indicating potential issues with the course's instructional effectiveness. There is a desire for deeper understanding rather than rote memorization, with fears about future academic challenges in more advanced classes. The student seeks advice on how to develop a better grasp of the material and whether their experience is typical at this level.
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They're really going up in arms in the class's facebook group right now. Some are saying that they checked their exam booklet and the teacher forgot to count the score of several pages when he was adding up the marks. Maybe that would explain the ridiculously low average. I checked mine and the count is correct.
 
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LuigiAM said:
They're really going up in arms in the class's facebook group right now. Some are saying that they checked their exam booklet and the teacher forgot to count the score of several pages when he was adding up the marks. Maybe that would explain the ridiculously low average. I checked mine and the count is correct.
I was once regrading an exam on which the students had to answer 5 out of 6 questions. The student had attempted six questions and completely flubbed one. That was the one the other grader had counted toward the total. The grader had completely ignored the correctly answered final question. I counted it towards the total.
 
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There's no reason to get "up in arms" about an error in summing the marks. You just bring the exam back to the professor, point out the mistake and request that the grade be re-evaluated.
 
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Choppy said:
There's no reason to get "up in arms" about an error in summing the marks. You just bring the exam back to the professor, point out the mistake and request that the grade be re-evaluated.

Agreed lol.

On my end I think I'm just going to hire a tutor for the rest of the semester.
 
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I'm sure much ridicule will follow, but my experience is that a "bad instruction" is not an excuse for failure. A student with initiative who really wants to learn any material and realizes "Good God, this instructor sucks...or this textbook is useless..." will do what it takes to get the information they need. Both claims may be true however, those claims don't relieve a student from learning and understanding the material at sufficient levels of understanding. My point is this, once the student graduates and begins to represent themselves as a "B.S. of XXXX engineering" (or other discipline), your perspective employers will assume you have the basic understanding of the materials associated with that level of college achievement. They are not going to care one bit about textbook issues, bad instructors or anything else related to YOUR inadequacies. If you don't meet the minimum requirements of the level of education you are presenting to them then you will simply be removed from the job. You can either do the job or not... it's just that simple and that becomes evident in the first 2 months of employment. This is why many, many engineering firms have a 2 or 3 month probation period to see if you have what it takes or just "got passed along by the college" so they can get their funds from the government based on the student quota they need to "push thru".
If your professor "sucks", find a way past him. If the textbook "sucks", find another one. If your still having issues, this forum can help some, youtube can help some, "Art of Problem Solving" can help some. Almost all colleges/ universities offer tutoring. The bottom line is there is no real excuse for academic failure particularly in today's society. There's plenty of resources available to achieve what you want to achieve. If something doesn't work for you then try another way. If all your instructors suck, find another college. It's totally up to you. I'm trying to push you to become dependent on yourself in achieving your academic goals. I believe you can do it, simply because you showed a minimum amount of initiative by starting this thread. YOU do what it takes. On one hand, the college may hand you a degree with no effort on your part, but be assured, employers will not simply hand you a paycheck without commensurate effort on your part.
 
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LuigiAM said:
Agreed lol.

On my end I think I'm just going to hire a tutor for the rest of the semester.
The Lab component will help for the intuitive side for sure. Physics was born of natural, observable things that often can be reinforced with labwork and/or lab demonstrations.
 
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Vector1962 said:
I'm sure much ridicule will follow, but my experience is that a "bad instruction" is not an excuse for failure. A student with initiative who really wants to learn any material and realizes "Good God, this instructor sucks...or this textbook is useless..." will do what it takes to get the information they need. Both claims may be true however, those claims don't relieve a student from learning and understanding the material at sufficient levels of understanding. My point is this, once the student graduates and begins to represent themselves as a "B.S. of XXXX engineering" (or other discipline), your perspective employers will assume you have the basic understanding of the materials associated with that level of college achievement. They are not going to care one bit about textbook issues, bad instructors or anything else related to YOUR inadequacies. If you don't meet the minimum requirements of the level of education you are presenting to them then you will simply be removed from the job. You can either do the job or not... it's just that simple and that becomes evident in the first 2 months of employment. This is why many, many engineering firms have a 2 or 3 month probation period to see if you have what it takes or just "got passed along by the college" so they can get their funds from the government based on the student quota they need to "push thru".
If your professor "sucks", find a way past him. If the textbook "sucks", find another one. If your still having issues, this forum can help some, youtube can help some, "Art of Problem Solving" can help some. Almost all colleges/ universities offer tutoring. The bottom line is there is no real excuse for academic failure particularly in today's society. There's plenty of resources available to achieve what you want to achieve. If something doesn't work for you then try another way. If all your instructors suck, find another college. It's totally up to you. I'm trying to push you to become dependent on yourself in achieving your academic goals. I believe you can do it, simply because you showed a minimum amount of initiative by starting this thread. YOU do what it takes. On one hand, the college may hand you a degree with no effort on your part, but be assured, employers will not simply hand you a paycheck without commensurate effort on your part.

I guess it depends from what point of view you see things.

Obviously there's always a way to get through a class even if the material and teaching is sub-par. No question about that.

At the same time though, bad teaching does exist (though perhaps not as often as some students may claim) and we shouldn't turn a blind eye to it (because if we do, then it's not fair for the good teachers). I understand that a student complaining about a teacher is kind of a boy cried wolf type of situation, but if you remember in the boy cried wolf story at the end there really was a wolf.
 
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