Classical Physics: Is Research Still Ongoing?

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The discussion centers on whether ongoing research in Classical Physics, particularly Newtonian Physics, is still relevant and if there are unresolved problems within the field. Participants explore various aspects of Classical Mechanics, including specific challenges and areas of inquiry that remain active in research.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that classical chaos may represent a frontier in ongoing research.
  • Unanswered questions in classical mechanics include issues related to fluid mechanics, such as the separation of streamlines from curved walls and turbulence.
  • Heat transport in aggregate compounds is mentioned as a challenging topic within solid mechanics.
  • The many-body problem is highlighted, with the observation that many equations lack analytical solutions and require numerical methods.
  • One participant argues that while classical mechanics has a well-defined body of phenomena, the search for analytical solutions to specific problems remains a task for Mathematical Physics.
  • There are claims that classical mechanics is complete from a physical standpoint, but limitations exist when dealing with high speeds or quantum effects.
  • Several unresolved topics in classical physics are identified, including glass transition, fracture, turbulence, wetting, and systems far from equilibrium, with no satisfactory theories currently available for these issues.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of views, with some asserting that classical mechanics is complete while others argue that significant unresolved problems remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the state of research in Classical Physics.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations of Classical Mechanics, particularly in relation to relativistic speeds and quantum effects, but do not resolve the implications of these limitations for ongoing research.

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I'm a secondary school student as yet, wondering and want to know whether scientists still do researches on Classical Physics, or they have just known everything that they wanted to know about the Newtonian Physics

In other words, are there still problems in Classical Physics the solutions of which are still unknown?

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Maybe classical chaos is still the frontier.
 
Mohammad_93 said:
I'm a secondary school student as yet, wondering and want to know whether scientists still do researches on Classical Physics, or they have just known everything that they wanted to know about the Newtonian Physics

In other words, are there still problems in Classical Physics the solutions of which are still unknown?

Thanks for your interaction

There are lots of unanswered questions in classical mechanics, for example on how, and why, streamlines separates from a curved wall, questions concerning turbulence and much else besides.

Those two examples are from fluid mechanics, in solid mechanics, heat transport in aggregate compounds is, I believe, still rather intractable.


So, yes, there is a LOT of research going on in classical mechanics, and always will, since classical mechanics is, and forever will remain, the optimal approximation of physics in the "human-scale" world.
 
arildno said:
... in solid mechanics, heat transport in aggregate compounds is, I believe, still rather intractable...

How is this a subject of interest in Classical Mechanics ?
 
Dickfore said:
How is this a subject of interest in Classical Mechanics ?
Hmm..you are right.
It belongs to classical physics, my bad..
 
Thanks people for your replies.
 
The many-body problem?

Many equations that can be built don't have an analytical solution. These can be built completely from classical mechanics, but only numerical solutions exist.

So in general, if there are still analytical solutions that are left to be found for some equations, I suspect they would be of great interest to classical mechanics. I would think that this is mostly in the hands of mathematicians though.
 
The field of Classical Mechanics is complete and closed from a physical point of view. This means that it has a well defined body of phenomena it addresses and all the laws governing these phenomena are known.

Applying these laws to a particular situation and trying to find an analytical solution, strictly speaking, is a task for Mathematical Physics. Thus, there may be some problems which do not have a solution in a closed form, but this most certainly does not mean that we do not understand the underlying laws governing these phenomena.

The topic of interest of classical mechanics are systems with finite number of degrees of freedom. The case of systems with (physically) infinite number of degrees of freedom belongs to the field of Continuum Physics. However, the very concept of a continuum is an idealization that is bound to fail at some point.

There are two limitations of Classical Mechanics: when the speeds of the particles become comparable to the speed of light and when the classical action attains values comparable to the Planck constant.
 
Mohammad_93 said:
In other words, are there still problems in Classical Physics the solutions of which are still unknown?

Tons: off the top of my head- glass transition, fracture, turbulence, wetting, systems far from equilibrium.

There is no satisfactory theory for any of these.
 
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Dickfore said:
There are two limitations of Classical Mechanics: when the speeds of the particles become comparable to the speed of light and when the classical action attains values comparable to the Planck constant.

If special relativity does not fall under the umbrella of classical mechanics, then surely general relativity is non-classical as well.
 

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