Closure of { (x,sin(1/x) : 0<x<=1 }?

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The problem involves determining the closure of the set F = { (x, sin(1/x)) : 0 < x <= 1 }. The discussion centers around the properties of the function sin(1/x) and its behavior as x approaches 0.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the graphical behavior of sin(1/x) and its implications for understanding the closure of the set. There are attempts to connect the oscillatory nature of the function to the concept of boundaries in topology.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the original poster's reasoning about boundaries and closures. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of the set and the nature of its closure, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is a mention of a flaw in the original reasoning provided by the poster, as indicated by their professor. The discussion also highlights the need to consider points in R2 that may be part of the boundary but not included in the original set F.

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Homework Statement


What is the closure of F = { (x,sin(1/x) : 0<x<=1 }?


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The Attempt at a Solution


F is a squiggly line in R2. For every point in F (every point on the squiggly line) an open ball about that point will contain point both in F and in the complement of F. Therefore F is it's own boundary.

The closure of a set is equal to the unions of the boundary of the set and the set itself
Sclosure = dS U S

Therefore Fclosure = dF U F = F U F = F

My professor indicated that this line of reasoning is flawed. I'm not sure why nor am I sure what a correct anyswer would be. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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What do you know about sin(1/x)?

Look at the graph again. It does something very interesting.
 
I know what it looks like, it's a common example in calculus. It bounces up and down as you go to 0 with ever increasing frequency. How does that have anything to do with the boundary methodology outlined in my original post?
 
Use the fact that Cl(F) = lim(F) = {x : x is a limit of F}. Now let x approach any value in (0,1] and look at the set of F's limits.
 
The graph of y = sin(1/x), in particular that it oscillates with increasing frequency as x gets closer to 0, has everything to do with the boundary.

filter54321 said:
F is a squiggly line in R2. For every point in F (every point on the squiggly line) an open ball about that point will contain point both in F and in the complement of F. Therefore F is it's own boundary.

The problem is right here. All you've shown is that F is a subset of its boundary. There may be other points of R2 in the boundary.
 

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