Coexistence of Solid and Liquid Matter: Conditions for Existing One Phase?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conditions under which solid and liquid phases of matter can coexist or exist solely in one phase. Participants explore the implications of molecular motion and the possibility of materials existing in a single state under varying conditions of temperature and pressure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the random motion of molecules in solid or liquid phases implies that these phases must coexist with other phases due to some molecules escaping from the surface.
  • Another participant questions the coherence of the original question, proposing that it may not be possible for any material to exist in only one state under all conditions of temperature and pressure.
  • A participant introduces the idea of a cloud of neutrinos as an example of a substance that could be classified as always being in a gas state, raising concerns about the meaning of classification schemes in extreme cases.
  • Further discussion includes the mention of dark matter in relation to the classification of states of matter.
  • A participant poses a question about the state of a single atom, prompting a humorous response regarding its location.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the coherence of the initial question and the possibility of materials existing in a single phase. There is no consensus on the conditions for the coexistence of solid and liquid phases or the classification of states of matter.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about molecular behavior and the definitions of states of matter, which remain unresolved. The implications of extreme cases on classification schemes are also noted but not fully explored.

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I think in solid or liquid phase, there are many molecule having a very large speed due to random character in moving.So the liquid or solid matter must co-exist with other phase because some molecules escape from surface of solid or liquid matter.Then is there any condition for existing only one phase of solid or liquid?
 
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fxdung said:
Then is there any condition for existing only one phase of solid or liquid?
Perhaps it's just me but I find your question somewhat incoherent. Are you asking if there is a material that always, under all conditions of temperature and pressure, exists in only one state? If so, then no, I don't think that could be possible.
 
phinds said:
Perhaps it's just me but I find your question somewhat incoherent. Are you asking if there is a material that always, under all conditions of temperature and pressure, exists in only one state? If so, then no, I don't think that could be possible.
One might consider that a cloud of neutrinos is always a gas.

But when you start looking for extreme cases like this, the classification scheme that you are trying to use tends to lose meaning.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
One might consider that a cloud of neutrinos is always a gas.
Dark matter as well.

But when you start looking for extreme cases like this, the classification scheme that you are trying to use tends to lose meaning.
Also a good point.
 
I have a single atom. What state is it in?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
I have a single atom. What state is it in?
Ohio?
 
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