Collision question using conservation of kinetic energy

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The discussion centers on a collision problem involving two equal masses, where one mass strikes another at rest. The scenario suggests that if the masses stick together and move at 1.414 m/s, it would satisfy conservation of kinetic energy, which is incorrect because kinetic energy is not conserved in perfectly inelastic collisions. Participants clarify that while momentum is conserved, kinetic energy is not, as some energy is transformed into other forms during the collision. The question emphasizes the need to explain why this scenario is impossible rather than proving it mathematically. The conversation also touches on the concept of perfectly elastic collisions and their rarity in real-world scenarios.
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Homework Statement



A 2.00 kg mas (A) moving at 2.00 m/s strikes another 2.00 kg mass(B) which is at rest. Both are confined to a a straight line to move along.

An impossible outcome for this collision is that A sticks to B and they both move off together at 1.414 m/s. First show that this collision would satify conservation of kinetic energy and then explainwhy this is impossible.

Homework Equations


.5(mA)(vAi)2+.5(mb)(vbi)2=.5(mA)(vAf)2+.5(mb)(vbf)2


The Attempt at a Solution


I get that this is a perfectly ineleastic collision but why is it impossible and what does the question mean by "show that this satifies the consevation of kinetic energy" Does the above question even relate to the equation for the consevation of kinetic energy?

ANy help is appreciated thanks!
 
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It's asking you to show that if they both stick together and move off at 1.414ms-1 then kinetic energy is conserved.
 
okay what does it mean if kinetc energy is conserved?
 
Satisfying conservation of kinetic energy means that the total kinetic energy before the collision is more than or equal the total kinetic energy after the collision since no energy can be created and energy could be lost to other forms, such as sounds, heat etc.

I get that this is a perfectly ineleastic collision
What makes you assume this?
 
Because if the colliding objects stick together after the collision then the collision is perfectly inelastic
 
so why is this situation impossible?
 
Oh sorry misread the question. Yes this impossible scenario is inelastic.

Simply use the conservation of momentum equation to show this is impossible ~

M_aU_a+M_bU_b=M_aV_a+M_bV_b where m=mass, u=intial velocity, v=final velocity.
 
Mentallic said:
Oh sorry misread the question. Yes this impossible scenario is inelastic.

Simply use the conservation of momentum equation to show this is impossible ~

M_aU_a+M_bU_b=M_aV_a+M_bV_b where m=mass, u=intial velocity, v=final velocity.

The question is not asking to prove that it's impossible, it's asking to explain why it's impossible.

Is there such thing as a perfectly elastic collision? Why/why not?
 
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