Combination of Capacitors and Equivalent Capacitance

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the charge on a capacitor (C1) within a network of capacitors, focusing on the equivalent capacitance and the distribution of charge among capacitors in series and parallel configurations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore how to calculate the charge on C1 using the equivalent capacitance and voltage. There are attempts to understand the distribution of charge among capacitors in series and parallel.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion about the charge distribution and the implications of series and parallel configurations. Others provide insights into the principles governing charge division, but there is no clear consensus on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants question the validity of charge values mentioned in the original problem, noting that the expected charge should be in microcoulombs rather than megacoulombs based on the given capacitances and voltage. There is also mention of a specific voltage supply (20V) and the capacitance values provided.

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Homework Statement


Calculate the charge on C1 in Coulombs.


Homework Equations


umm q=CV



The Attempt at a Solution



http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120424171750AA1WxRv

I have this same problem except my numbers are:
C1= 6.00 μF, C2=3.10 μF, C3= 2.20 μF, C4= 1.30 μF, C5=4.40 μF, C6=6.50 μF
and my Ceq = 4.994×10-6 F

I don't understand when the person says: "Then you have to split up the 2.6 MC
to assign parts of it to C1 and part of it to C6, proportionally."
how do i do that?
 
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I really don't understand how to get the charge across C1 ??
 
The given answer errs in that the charge on the capacitor network cannot possibly be in the MEGA coulomb range. MICRO coulombs would be indicated by the fact that the capacitances are on the order of microfarads and the supply is only 20V.

The statement about splitting the charge is correct; how does charge divide between parallel capacitors (they have the same potential difference)?
 
arl146 said:
I really don't understand how to get the charge across C1 ??

Voltages are ACROSS, currents are THROUGH, and charges are ON :wink:
 
well i was thinking something like i can find the total charge by Ceq(V) where V=20 and Ceq =4.994x10^(-6)

so i have a total charge now. looking at the whole thing, Ceq is for C16 in series with C2345 meaning that those two have the same charge but split voltage. so wouldn't the charges each just be (4.994x10^(-6))/2 and the voltage 10V for each?

and when i do that i look further into C16. since C16 are parallel, they have the same voltage across but different charges. Q1 = C1(V) where V is 10 and Q6 = C6(V)? but that's not right
 
arl146 said:
well i was thinking something like i can find the total charge by Ceq(V) where V=20 and Ceq =4.994x10^(-6)

so i have a total charge now. looking at the whole thing, Ceq is for C16 in series with C2345 meaning that those two have the same charge but split voltage. so wouldn't the charges each just be (4.994x10^(-6))/2 and the voltage 10V for each?
Nope. Capacitors in series have the same charge. This must be so since it's current that "delivers" the charge, and series components MUST have the same current. This also means that the voltages need not be the same, since the same charge on different capacitances will yield different voltages.
and when i do that i look further into C16. since C16 are parallel, they have the same voltage across but different charges. Q1 = C1(V) where V is 10 and Q6 = C6(V)? but that's not right
True; the voltage across them is not 20V/2. Use the charge that you found and apportion it according to the capacitance values.
 
i don't know how! I am so lost
 
i got it ;)
thanks for your help
 

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