Combustion Analysis: Excess Air, Flue Gas Composition, Dew Point Temp

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the combustion analysis of a fuel oil represented as C15H32, focusing on determining the percent excess air used, the flue gas molar composition on a wet basis, and the dew point temperature of the flue gas. The context includes theoretical calculations and balancing chemical equations related to combustion processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the presence of CO indicates incomplete combustion and seeks to determine the proportions of complete and incomplete combustion.
  • Another participant advises including nitrogen in the combustion equations to balance the reaction properly.
  • A participant presents a balanced equation for complete and partial combustion, incorporating nitrogen and seeks clarification on calculating excess air and the proportions of fuel undergoing complete versus incomplete combustion.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether to include water vapor in the dry basis analysis of the flue gas.
  • One participant proposes a method to calculate excess air by setting up equations based on the nitrogen to oxygen ratio and the molar composition of the products.
  • Another participant provides their balanced equation and calculations for excess air, suggesting a value of 30% excess air based on their analysis.
  • Several participants discuss the need for accurate balancing of equations and the implications of rounding in their calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to balance combustion equations and the importance of including all relevant products, including water vapor. However, there are differing approaches to calculating excess air and the specific values derived from their analyses, leading to multiple competing views on the exact calculations and results.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note discrepancies in their calculations due to rounding and the precision of their values, indicating that the results may vary based on the methods used. The discussion also highlights the complexity of balancing combustion equations and the assumptions made regarding the combustion process.

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Homework Statement



A fuel oil burned in a steam generator has a composition that may be represented as C15H32.

A dry basis analysis of the flue gas yields the following molar composition: CO2 10.111%,
CO 1.000%, O2
5.611%, and N2 83.278%.

Determine the following:
(a). The percent excess air used to burn the fuel oil;
(b). The flue gas molar composition on a wet basis, reporting all constituents, including
water vapor, to the nearest 0.001%; and
(c). The dew point temperature (°C) of the flue gas, if the pressure exiting the combustion
stack is 180 kPa


Homework Equations


Excess air = (actual air- stoichiometric air)/actual air


The Attempt at a Solution


Since there is CO in the product, it means that part of the fuel undergoes incomplete combustion. I am trying to find the percentage of the fuel that undergoes the full combustion and the percentage that undergoes partial combustion.
C5H32 + 13 O2 ->5CO2 + 16 H2O ------>complete combustion
C5H32 + 10.5 O2 ->5CO2 + 16 H2O ---------> Partial combustion
I am not sure where to go next.
 
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Hint:

You should add nitrogen to the left hand side of your equation. It would be entered in the correct ratio as it exits in air. It must then appear on the right hand product side.
 
I added the N2 to both equations:
C5H32 + 13 O2 + 13.(3.76) N2 -->5CO2 + 16 H2O+48.88 N2 ------>complete combustion
C5H32 + 10.5 O2+10.5.(3.76) N2 -->5CO2 +16 H2O+39.48 N2-------> Partial combustion

Now how can I find out how much excess air was used and how much of the fuel was in complete and how much of the fuel was used as incomplete combustion?
Thanks
 
Your second equation is not balanced and you are not indicating any CO or O2 in the products of combustion.

Hint:

Write the second equation as

aC5H32 + bO2 + cN2 = 10.111CO2 + 1.000CO + 5.611O2 + 83.278N2 + dH2O

and determine correct values for a,b,c,d so that equation balances. Then proceed from there.
 
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Do you think we should exclude H2O since the molar composition is given in dry basis?
 
H2O is a product ofcombustion. In order for the equation to balance, it should be present.
 
I did this:
Since the amount of N2 in the reactant has to be equal the amount of N2 in products, therefore and using the ratio of N2/O2 = 3.76 I set up two equations:
x.y=5.6 (amount of O2); x = theoretical air and y = 1+excess air
x(1+y) (3.76) = 83.278 (amount of N2) and I got x=16.568 and y=1.338 which means there is 33.8% of excess air. The amount of O2 therefore is: 16.568*1.338=22.168 and the amount of N2 = 16.58*1.338*3.76 = 83.278. The balanced equation becomes:
0.674 C15H32+ 22.168 O2 + 83.278 N2 = 10.111 CO2 + 1 CO + 83.278 N2 + 10.784 H2O
which is the molar composition on wet base. Does this look ok? By the way, there is about 0.5 mole of O2 more in right side of the equation than the left side which I assumed is because I only used three decimal points. Is it reasonable?

Thanks a lot
 
My balanced equation is:

aC15H32 +bO2 + cN2 = 10.111CO2 + 1.000CO + 5.611O2 + 83.278N2 + dH2O

where

a=.74073333
b=22.148
c=83.278
d=16a

It balances well.
 
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True,
So this answers the part (a) and (b) of the equation, correct?
 
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To get excess air you should write the balanced actual equation for 1 mole of fuel. Then write another equation for theoretical air and perfect combustion for same 1 mole of fuel. Using the atomic weights compute the air to fuel ratio for each. Then form a ratio of the ratios. This provides the percent theoretical air so anything over 100% is excess.. The above also gives you what you seek for part b.
 
  • #11
Thanks,
Here is my calculation:
C15H32+29.899 O2+112.42 N2=13.649 Co2 + 1.350 CO +7.574 O2+112.425 N2+ 15.998 H2O
And for the theoretical air:
C15H32+ 23 O2+ 86.48 N2=15 CO2+ 16 H2O+86.48 N2
AFR(theoretical) = (28.8*(23+86.48))/212 = 14.872
AFR(stoich) = (28.8*(29.899+112.42))/212 = 19.333
Excess air = 19.333/14.872 = 1.3 or 30%

Looks good?
 
  • #12
That's it, 30% excess air for the combustion.
 
  • #13
Thank you
 

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