Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the commutation of the time evolution operator with the Hamiltonian in quantum mechanics, specifically under the condition that the Hamiltonian does not explicitly depend on time. Participants explore the mathematical foundations and implications of this relationship, touching on both bounded and unbounded cases.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Mathematical reasoning
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant asks for an explanation of how the time evolution operator commutes with the Hamiltonian when the Hamiltonian is time-independent.
- Another participant expresses the time evolution operator as an exponential function of the Hamiltonian, specifically noting the form U = exp[-iH*(t-t0)/ħ].
- A subsequent post discusses the definition of the exponential as a power series and prompts consideration of the commutation relation [H,U].
- One participant points out that the exponential's power series definition holds primarily for bounded Hamiltonians, suggesting that the proof is trivial in that case but more complex for unbounded Hamiltonians.
- Another participant acknowledges the relevance of Stone's theorem in the context of unbounded operators and mentions the self-adjoint nature of the Hamiltonian as a conclusion of this theorem.
- A participant comments on the expectations of physics students regarding the treatment of the exponential series and the commutation relation, indicating that they may not be required to rigorously justify convergence in the bounded case.
- One participant suggests that a proof of strong convergence would be beneficial for theoretical physics students, referencing the Euler-Maclaurin series expansion as a relevant concept.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express varying levels of familiarity with the mathematical rigor required for the discussion, particularly regarding bounded versus unbounded Hamiltonians. There is no consensus on the necessity of rigorous proofs for students, nor on the implications of the commutation relation in different contexts.
Contextual Notes
Some participants note the limitations of understanding the convergence of series and the conditions under which the exponential operator is defined, particularly in relation to boundedness of the Hamiltonian.