Commutator, where have I gone wrong?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the difference between Pauli Matrices 0 and 1 in Hilbert Spaces and goes on to show the incorrectness of an equation involving these matrices. The mistake is corrected by changing a plus sign to a minus sign.
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This is for the Pauli Matrics 0 and 1 are different Hilbert Spaces
[tex]\left[(I-Z)_{0}\otimes(I-Z)_{1} , Y_{0}\otimes Z_{1}\right][/tex]
[tex]=\left((I-Z)_{0}\otimes(I-Z)_{1}\right)\left(Y_{0}\otimes Z_{1}\right)-\left(Y_{0}\otimes Z_{1}\right)\left((I-Z)_{0}\otimes(I-Z)_{1}\right) [/tex]
[tex]=\left((I-Z)_{0}Y_{0}\otimes(I-Z)_{1} Z_{1} - Y_{0}(I-Z)_{0} \otimes Z_{1}(I-Z)_{1} [/tex]
[tex]= (Y_{0} -Z_{0}Y_{0}) \otimes (Z-I)_{1} - ((Y_{0} + Y_{0}Z_{0})\otimes (Z-I)_{1} [/tex]
[tex]= (Y_{0} -Z_{0}Y_{0}) \otimes (Z-I)_{1} - ((Y_{0} - Z_{0}Y_{0})\otimes (Z-I)_{1}
=0
[/tex]

I think this is wrong because I have done it long hand (i.e multiplying the matrices) and also I really, really don't want zero for an answer :).

Thanks
 
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Fourth line, second term, I think the plus should be turned to minus..
 
  • #3
dioib said:
Fourth line, second term, I think the plus should be turned to minus..
Thanks for your reply, sorry I still can't see it though, could you explain why?
Thanks again.
 
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raisin_raisin said:
Thanks for your reply, sorry I still can't see it though, could you explain why?
Thanks again.

You really don't see why

[tex]-Y_0(I-Z)_0\neq-(Y_0+Y_0Z_0)[/tex]

?
 
  • #5
gabbagabbahey said:
You really don't see why

[tex]-Y_0(I-Z)_0\neq-(Y_0+Y_0Z_0)[/tex]

?

:blushing: Oops, thanks!
 

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